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Topic starter 02/04/2024 10:04 am  

About nine inches across. This is either Zhangzhou (Swatow) or pretending to be.  There are spur marks on the interior and marks on the foot rim, which together lead me to theorize it was fired twice?  The interior spurs were placed strategically on top of small designs...something I haven't seen before, or maybe never noticed.(second to last pic).  
I found one other example of a piece with the strong blue enamel. That piece also possesses the same Chinese characters, so maybe the same maker/kiln. The last pic is that charger.  The clean foot, with something of a "bullseye" would also be unusual for Swatow, so I am unsure. 
Thanks, Todd

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02/04/2024 11:55 am  

Not an expert on these, but if I came across this one at a shop I would be skeptical. The pitting seems over the top, etc.


   
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02/04/2024 12:36 pm  

John is right. The evenly and profusely distributed black spots are a warning sign. As is the decoration that looks like painted yesterday. Swatow overglaze colors are usually worn off by use and time. Also the bottom doesn't look right.

Birgit


   
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02/04/2024 12:53 pm  

I’m pretty sure this is Japanese Inuyami wares. Since I have one.


   
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02/04/2024 1:29 pm  

My first thought was it is Japanese.  Although the phoenix does look rather Chinese but on the other hand, I have a large swatow dish about the same size, the interior is completely worn on the bottom, the base is covered in grit and there are none of those holes.  I saw Brian mentioned inuyama ware so I had a quick look and found this:

https://hareitiba-japanese-antique.com/products/y3919-chawan-inuyama-ware-red-picture-kintsugi-box-japan-confectionery-bowl

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02/04/2024 5:37 pm  

I hope it is is Japanese, because the base would have made me think so and I would have bought it, if it was a bargain price and because I like it. Sharon


   
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Topic starter 02/04/2024 8:55 pm  

Inuyama was always the other choice. Doesn't fit neatly into that either, but that's how it goes. Could even be Arita or a few other types of Japanese ware, as they also dipped their feet into Swatow-style, so it's hard to say. The color of the clay on the foot does look legitimately old to my eye....but more 19th century than 16th or 17th. So, maybe some Japanese ware of the 19th is the way I'm leaning, with this feedback. Thanks!

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