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Topic starter 09/09/2020 2:24 am  

As is my practice, when I post real junk I put a few things together in one post 😋 

The wooden owl seems to have some age. Was in Japan until recently, not sure if its Japanese.

Posting the plates because I assumed they were printed/transfer at 1st glance, but the two are not the same. Could they be hand painted? They look like typical transfer. Bit confused...

 

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And a small etched wooden plaque. 

Thanks for any insight, 

Todd

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09/09/2020 2:40 am  

Hi Todd,

You're right, I can see a difference in the decoration on the plates, but I am not sure why.  It can't just be that the outlines are transferred and filled in differently as I can see differences in the outline.  Maybe the transfers are designed by different people and therefore slightly different?  I have never really thought about how they are made.  

I like the owl; I think the plaque is rather elegant; I can't say much about either other than that. 😊 

Julia


   
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09/09/2020 4:14 am  

Hi Todd,

Think the just misaligned the transfer makes it look different. Very cute owl. Can't help with wooden bowl either sorry. The bowl holding up the wooden one looks nice.

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Topic starter 09/09/2020 4:58 am  

Hi Julia

Thanks, it is confusing. I’ve picked up ones that look like this before and compared them, and they are always identical. 

Hi Michael,

Maybe the pictures were not adequate. The designs are different at every point. I have to think they are transfer, but with two different stencils, as Julia suggested...probably not using the right word. 

The bowl is Fukagawa, supposedly 1900-1920, according to the mark. I like it too, is nice quality.

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09/09/2020 5:13 am  

Todd,

Very nice color like the shape. I will post some pic's here tomorrow I have English saucers with a misaligned transfer that makes them look different

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09/09/2020 9:27 am  

@watership  I love the chrysanthemum shape bowl, the color, the way it lightens at the ridges and lastly the pretty marks.  Other pieces, owl has a folk art feel and the bowl with the deer (?), do you think it had an ceramic or glass insert?  I like the little plates but that ridged bowl though is a fine beauty.

 


   
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09/09/2020 11:48 am  

The owl is cute 😍

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09/09/2020 8:49 pm  

Hey Todd,

Absolutely love that etched wooden plaque; great colour. 

For the Fukagawa dish, I actually believe it to be a little closer to the contemporary/vintage side of things: Post-War Shōwa.
It's possible you just found and old one in pristine condition, but the mark (which has largely been used on and off since the turn of the 20th century to current - so sometimes not a good estimate to true age) has a very fresh or printed look to it, along with the molded appearance has me feel this is a bit of a later example: alas a still highly collectible and very desirable design regardless. 

I have some Fukagawa contemporary pieces I love just as much as my antique ones; they're still doing quite well in the modern age, and really don't slack off on the production quality.

 

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Topic starter 09/09/2020 10:14 pm  

Thanks Sharon, Could it have had a piece of glass in front? I hadn’t thought of that, seems to be room for it. 

Birgit 😀  

Hi JRN, I had thought vintage also when I picked it up. It has that feel. Gotheborg through me off, they don’t go into detail about the continued use of the mark. It just didn’t seem 100 years old to me, that’s why I used the skeptical - “supposedly” 😋.  The plaque uses negative space elegantly, to steal Julia’s word. I don’t think its a valuable thing, but I like it too. Thanks as always for your insight!

Todd

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@watership

Hi Todd,

Can you see on these Wedgwood saucers they put the central transfer a bit lower down and slightly screwed how it makes the tower look lower, and the bridge at a different angle also the boats look bigger. You can see the white of the pottery where to transfer should be. I think they have done similar on your dishes it makes the Lion look like it looking in different direction.

I know it don't matter the Sun will still rise.

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09/09/2020 10:36 pm  

Hi Todd, 

I do like the plaque. 

Gotheborg website is a superb reference material etc. However one has to be a little cautious with their Japanese section. If you search fukagawa Mark you will quickly find dedicated collectors who will provide you with better analysis of said/other marks.

Based on your pictures I agree totally with JRN assessment. It's a vintage example. Probable 80's production imo. 

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 09/09/2020 10:50 pm  

Did I spell “threw” as “through”...how annoying 😆 

Hi Michael,

Your dishes are interesting, I think I would have been confused by them without the explanation. I like to keep an open mind, which has lead me to go back and look at the small foo dog dishes a few times now. I still can’t explain the lack of congruency though. Nothing seems to match. Take one more close look at the side-by-side picture, if you would. 

Best, Todd

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Topic starter 09/09/2020 10:54 pm  

Hi Mark,

Thanks, seems right to me. I will do as you suggest and look for some additional, more detailed sites, concerning the marks,

Todd

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10/09/2020 3:59 am  

Hi Todd,

As another member posted maybe the Japanese are smart and have  a few different transfers to give the impression of difference and hand painted

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Topic starter 10/09/2020 4:29 am  

Hi Michael,

Yes, that’s my feeling too. I just can’t see them being hand painted. Different transfers/stencils is unusual, but its the only explanation. 

 

 

 

 

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