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Hello All
Please can I ask for your help with my white glaze bowl. It is 15.5cm dia. x 5.5cm tall. I have read that Ding ware has runs in the glaze, but clearly my bowl is not as refined a piece of pottery even though it has similar 'tear drops' on both the inside and outside. The foot has been very neatly trimmed, with it slightly tapering upwards.
I am not sure if it is a Song dynasty piece and would welcome any suggestions as to its age. My photographs may not be clear as they could be as the glaze is not qingbai, but is an ivory-white shade.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
it should be earlier than Song.
The closest ware that I can think of is white Tang ware, like Xing and similar.
The only odd point is the dripping glaze, which I exclude the possibility of being Ding, which is not usual on white Tang ware.
I do not totally exclude the possibility of being it from some other Asian Country, only because I have no knowledge in such fields, but all in all to me it is Tang, also because the shape is correct for that attribution.
Regards,
Giovanni
Hello Giovanni
Thank you for your opinion. I have seen examples of Xing ware and I agree that they seem to have a finer finish glaze than on my bowl. I can only hope that the style of the rim and white body is distinctive enough for it to be attributed to a particular period. It would good if it is Tang, as I have yet been able to find a genuine example for my collection, but I know that this is slender chance.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Hello Giovanni
Due to your suggestion about my bowl possibly being a Tang piece I thought that I should check out the Alain R. Truong link to Tang pottery examples. As a novice in regards to different types of glaze please can I ask for your opinion, as well as any other of the members of the forum, as to whether or not the the glaze on the vase shown in the link below is a good match to the type of glaze and drips on my bowl. It looks very much like the same shade when I compare it to my bowl, but perhaps I am being to hopeful.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
http://www.alaintruong.com/albums/tang_dynasty/photos/102749911-a_white_glazed_meiping.html
Dear Jeremy,
I do not know if it is matter of the picture, but the glaze of your bowl looks more greyish than the Tang white glaze which is white or very light creamy white.
Regardless, in my opinion your bowl is Tang, may be late Tang because of the foot.
Typically, Tang white bowls have a bi-shaped foot, but the foot that we see on your bowl is not impossible, it become more common later (this is, I think, the reason why you thought that it could be Song).
The overall shape, especially the rim, is typically Tang.
These are the first white ware, the body being proto-porcelain. You can test and see that it will not transmit light through it.
Regards
Giovanni
Hello Giovanni
Thank you for your help and suggested test. I know that to be sure a TL test would be required, but I am happy to just be fairly confident that it could be Tang. I only have a small collection, but it is good to possibly have a piece from yet another dynasty and kiln.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Hello,
I might be wrong here but it looks a bit Korean to me. Also I find this glaze very similar to my jar - please compare the pictures. Somebody much more experienced told me my jar is Korean, however I also received a different opinion that it's Chinese (from even more experienced person).
My apologies if I am leading the discussion on the wrong track.
Kind regards,
Adrian
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Hello Adrian
Thank you for posting photos of your jar. Your suggestion that my bowl could be Korean may be correct, I do not have sufficient knowledge to say one way or the other, but selfishly I am now hoping that Giovanni's identification is the correct one for obvious reasons.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Dear Adrian and Jeremy,
first at all I must correct myself for the following sentence in my first post:
“The only odd point is the dripping glaze, which I exclude the possibility of being Ding, which is not usual on white Tang ware.”
I meant there that the bowl can’t be Ding (because of the glaze and the foot). Besides, I also meant that a dripping white glaze, which is common for Ding, is not common on other Tang white glazes, like Xing.
That is not really correct. I said that based on some Tang white glazed bowls that I had or have seen, but looking for references I see that there are indeed many white glazed pieces clearly showing glaze dripping.
This for the record.
As for the possibility of the bowl being Korean, I am not convinced, although my premise in the first post:
“I do not totally exclude the possibility of being it from some other Asian Country, only because I have no knowledge in such fields”
By googling for images for “Korea white glaze”, I see that the foot of the bowls is completely different.
If you google for images for “Xing wares”, one of the first images that appear is from the really reliable Koh’ site, showing the foot of a white bowl, similar to that of Jeremy’s bowl. This as an example for saying that not all white glazed Tang bowls has a Bi-shaped foot.
BTW, the overall shape of Jeremy’s bowl (large base/foot, not tall body, and “lipped” rim) are typical of Tang bowls.
Regards
Giovanni
Thank you Giovanni for this information, it is very helpful. I now understand what the bi-shaped foot is.
My bowl is definitely not a fine piece, but it is the history behind it and age which makes it interesting to me.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
Hi Giovanni,
Many thanks for your detailed information, that is simply hard to overestimate! I have spent a lot of time yesterday looking at Korean wares and in general I was browsing internet with quotes like 'antique Asian white glaze stoneware bowl' or 'antique Korean white glaze ware' with different variations of course and I must admit that I have quickly got to the same conclusion that the foots in Korean pieces are completely different. And on the other hand the only one similar to Jeremy's bowl were indeed Tang. I was mislead by that thick rim and the glaze itself.
Many thanks again for sharing your knowledge with us!
Kind regards,
Adrian
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