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What do these characters mean.? They are on a Japanese tile.

 
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09/04/2022 11:32 am  

Hi Richard,

Your tile is Chinese. The last leftmost line states “Made at Zhu Shan (Pearl Hill)” which is another name for Jingdezhen, China.

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Thank you Gfhandel. I have another I could use your help on. Have attached photos.

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14/04/2022 6:56 pm  

@richard I can’t read the Plaque but I believe this is late Guangxu period. 


   
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14/04/2022 8:49 pm  

癸巳(读音:guǐ sì)年-  1833, 1893,1953....


   
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14/04/2022 8:54 pm  

@richard 

Your second item is Artist signed “Li you blank” Can’t make out the third character so Ive marked it as “blank.” Also dated either 1893 or 1953 with cyclical characters and also marked “painted at Zhu Shan” Jingdezhen”

 

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14/04/2022 9:42 pm  

I believe 1893 is most probable. I like these I had one really nice it got swindle from me.


   
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14/04/2022 11:26 pm  

@lotusblack Did they not pay, claim breakage and not return or send you a sack of potatoes as a return (still the most audacious buyer rip-off story I've ever heard on Bidamount forum). 


   
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15/04/2022 1:52 am  

That is interesting to me as I have seen a fair amount of pieces on the market, recently, that are decorated in this style so it is good to have a date.


   
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15/04/2022 3:04 am  

Not sure if this is old. I have heard that porcelain  plaques were not easy to make and expensive and were painted by master painters only. 

Birgit


   
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15/04/2022 4:32 am  

@sharonp when I first started to let some things go I didn’t know that if you send a package to China outside of the global shipping program that it could not be tracked once it left United  States. It disappeared and buyer claimed he never got it from Chinese customs just vanished. 


   
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15/04/2022 4:43 am  

I do agree that it’s poorly rendered but this style was being done in late Qing guess I need to see better pictures and the back. Here’s a ginger jar that is in that style.

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15/04/2022 6:08 am  

This are similar ones I saw yesterday. Some are described as republic and the last one in particular looks more recent than late qing. Maybe they are a continuation of an earlier style? They may have dates but I am still struggling with those. 

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/354007034174

https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/57655285-vase-and-hat-stand-with-birds-and-calligraphy-2-porcelain-china-republic-period-1912-1949

https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/57664301-vase-porcelain-flowers-and-calligraphic-texts-china-republic-period-1912-1949


   
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15/04/2022 6:50 am  

Yes I thought about these too. I have a piece that’s painted in this style and is dated 1900. The ginger jar looks very similar  

The last Catawiki vase is in a different style that was popular later in Republic, it’s a kind of air brush technique. 
 
As to the plaque shown by Richard I think it’s more recent. The original turn of the century style is less garish and quite tasteful in color. Also I have seen many vases, jars and the like in that style but never a porcelain plaque.

 

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15/04/2022 8:03 am  

I concur with Birgit. I believe that the plaque is not republic period but more recent. 

However, i would have like to hsve see the back. 

Mark 


   
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