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What do you think this is and how old?
I'm baffled. I'm kind of leaning towards Northern Song to Yuan....Chinese or possibly Korean.
The splash of blue (junyao?) is almost black when the jar is not in the sun, so that crazy blue color... That's all the effect of strong natural sunlight.
Somebody cared enough to make resorations to it a long long time ago (wax/lacquer repairs look 18th c. to me), and they used the same material to plug up the spout.
Anyway.... let me know your thoughts.
Thanks.
I think it has a southeast Asian vibe to it. Not sure what to think in terms of age.
@julia It's a heavly thrown pot.... 15" tall to the tip of the finial x 15" wide at the widest point around the waiste.
No handle, yet, it has a spout. Curious, right?
@lotusblack The jun glaze looks original. There was a reference in an article that there is a connection with jun glazes and longquan glaze, but I haven’t found photos substantiating the relationship.
There are some other areas aside from the cover where glaze has pooled, and bluish jun like color appears.
@greeno107 looks like Yaozhou ware to me. I agree this is not new.
Take a look at these. They might be related to your jar.
@lotusblack That's a good direction for me to look. I'll check that out.
@william Possibley, but I see some differences that are hard to overlook.
It is difficult to compare the color given the photos I posted, which are in bright sunlight, and Doyle's studio photos done under artificial light.
That said, the ceramic on my jar is fairly white, low iron, and sort of a half way between earthenware and actual porcelain, and the glaze on mine (excluding the jun blue) is a rather dark green until you put it in bright sunlight. The Doyle's jars seem to be a red earthenware (high iron) like roof tile, and the glaze a very rich emerald green.
However, the carving shows some similarity, although I would argue the detail on the carving of my dragons is very very fine - one of the dragon's ears has finely carved scales.... really impressive when you study it.
William, what do you think of that foot? A lot of time went into making such a well formed and deep foot rim. Have you ever seen that?
I would have figured that a large utilitarian jar (which given the spout, suggests it was for wine or something similar), that a flat foot would have sufficed. Why make a foot like that? I'm flummoxed.
Later today, I'll post a photo of the chip, which appears to be more recent than the rest of the damage on the jar, that shows the nature of the clay. And I'll post photos showing the piece in ambient light. Thanks.
Just want to point out that the design, dragon over rocks and water, is a very early design, but I'm not sure when it originates. The dragon has some characteristics of Japanese style dragons, which in the Yuan dynasty was how dragons were depicted. I'm leaning more and more towards 13-14th c., but since I have not yet found a comparable piece, it's just an assumption.
Here is a Wanli period example from the MET.
Let me add this, too. This is a Yuan carved celadon dish that depicts a dragon. There is a similarity in the carving, but a big difference in the degree of detail. Perhaps Ming might be a better dating for my jar given I have not found a depiction of dragon above rock & water earlier than Ming. I'm still not sure.
Hi Tim -
You may find the attached images and descriptions of some help …
The three legged incense burner, No 154, is in the Kenchoji Temple, Kamakura, Japan and attributed Yuan dynasty, 14th century …
The four-handled vase, No 156, is held in The Museum Yamato Bunkakan, Nara, Japan, also attributed Yuan 14th century …
The carved/moulded detailing seen on such wares can vary considerably, the dish with central dragon/flaming pearl posted is a good example of this …
Certain details, especially the clouds seen on your jar/cover show very similar aspects to some of the attached examples …
The dragon above waves/rocks is a very old composition, dating back to at least the Song or even earlier …
I hope these are of some help …
Stuart
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