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Topic starter 30/08/2022 3:53 pm  

Hi All, 

I have had this fishbowl for many years and have never seen another like it. I had someone refer to it as a manganese finish but I know that is incorrect. A quick google search for black glaze seems to have a similar look but just not the same.

The glaze has an iridescence to it that the picture doesn't show well. The incised and relief decoration on the body seems crude and it seems to be earthenware. It does have a plugged small hole on the bottom, for drainage I assume, and a small hole below the rim. It does have a red export mark on the top of the rim. 

The stand was something I had and is a marriage, I will ask about the stand in a separate post, hope you folks don't get tired of my posts. 

Any opinions as to age and information about this piece?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark

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31/08/2022 9:43 am  

Hello Mark, what an unusual piece that appears to mock a bronze piece in ceramic. I have never seen one like it. Where did you purchase it? How old did they say the piece was when you acquired? Is it possible that the piece could have been repainted over to give it the metallic look? Hopefully, some member will be familiar with the form. 


   
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Topic starter 31/08/2022 4:22 pm  

Hi Sharon and thanks for the reply. I never even thought of it mocking a bronze piece, good insight. I got it in Atlanta in an estate that I purchased. She was a NY collector/dealer according to her son, I got many good pieces out of her estate, mostly paintings, bronzes, and European furniture, and a few pieces of Chinese and Japanese. I don't think that it was painted after the fact, but I could be wrong. 
There was not any discussion about individual items, I purchased the entire estate. There was an old appraisal on some of the pieces but this was not one of them. My gut tells me 19th/20th C for this piece

I'll see if anyone else has an opinion or knows what it is for a bit, if not ill submit it to Peter and see what he thinks. I have a bunch of other items I need to send to him so I'll add this one, as well as the base to solve the mystery. 


   
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31/08/2022 11:47 pm  

@mg9mm Please let us know what you learn about the pieces, especially about the red mark.


   
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Topic starter 02/09/2022 11:06 am  

@sharonp 

Here is a link that I found that explains about "Jianding" the export approval seals. I will let you know what Peter has to say after iI get the submission back from him.

https://gotheborg.com/marks/jiandingtest.shtml


   
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02/09/2022 6:21 pm  

@mg9mm Thank you.


   
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Topic starter 06/09/2022 11:18 am  

I got Peters's reply about both of the pieces.

He identified them as made in the Guangdong Kilns near Hong Kong, around 1930 and the export mark is from there as well. He said that they were interesting as a lot of the wares are smaller in size. The base is made from redware and both of them have a brown glaze. 

Well, solves the mystery for me.


   
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@mg9mm Thank you for letting us know that they are Republic.


   
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