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Hi everyone,
I have 2 plates that I purchased before you all had taught me to exercise better caution!
The one on the left was sold as Kangxi, the one on the right as Chinese. The supposedly Kangxi plate (more a saucer really) is, to me, more convincing, but maybe not as old as advertised. The one on the right bothers me a little more. I have since seen an identical one for sale which makes me think there may be a production line somewhere. I’m also not convinced it’s Chinese.
what are your opinions?
Nic
Forgot to mention that they’re both 5.5” and that the one on the right is more thickly potted. It’s more like a teapot stand than a saucer perhaps?
Hi,
From what I can see (photos a little blurry), the Kangxi one looks like it might be ok. I won't commit to that because I am not expert enough to always see past blurriness to the truth! ?
The other looks like printed Japanese - is that what you were thinking?
Julia
Yes, pretty much. Thanks! Sorry again for the photos. I did borrow a camera but couldn’t upload the photos to my laptop, there seems to be a fault with the USB port.
I’m not sure if the one on the right is printed, there are ink dots or pools where a brush seems to have come to rest, but I guess this can be created in other ways? But there is a decidedly sugary texture to the glaze and a sugar-like substance to the foot.
I bought this nearly two weeks ago but it only arrived yesterday! I wouldn’t buy it now so I guess it shows that my judgement is improving?!
The allegedly Kangxi piece is lovely, I know it might be a pretty basic piece but it was inexpensive. The shape is ever so slightly distorted so I’m a bit nervous about that! There is a bluish tinge to the glaze too, so I’m half expecting someone to tell me it’s also Japanese!
Nic
The left plate is ok for Kangxi. The right plate looks like 19th century kitchen Qing to me
Birgit
Interesting! Thanks so much!
I actually want to celebrate that I now own a piece of Kangxi Porcelain, albeit, perhaps, a fairly ordinary one!
When you’re just starting out, these little triumphs are important!
Nic
Dear Nic,
As said by Shinigami the left one is Kangxi and the other one 19th century.
You can learn a lot from these two dishes.
It is good that you compared them and saw, for example, the difference in potting. The thickness of the Kangxi one is much less than the other one, as you have noted. This is sign of finer quality; if you consider that to that thickness you have to subtract the two thickness of the inner and outer glaze, you will realize how thin is the body.
You may also see the different translucency, by holding them against a light source.
Pass your finger on the rim. The 19th century one will feel more even than the Kangxi one. On it, you may find some glaze frittings (it seems that there is one at 6 o’clock in the picture of the back). Those are not damage, they are firing faults, a problem typical of Kangxi ware, which has been solved just a few later, during Yongzheng.
Look at how visually the two bare feet are different, both in thickness and surface texture.
Pass your finger on them and see how much rough is the 19th C. one.
Giovanni
Thanks Giovanni!
That is an excellent tutorial for a novice!
The difference in translucency is startling. I can see the pattern of the Kangxi dish through the porcelain when I hold it up to the light. Not so the 19th century one.
I much prefer the Kangxi, even with the firing faults. The painting may not be very sophisticated but the plate itself is lovely, quite elegant in its own humble way.
Thanks again for your advice and guidance,
Nic
Interesting! Thanks so much!
I actually want to celebrate that I now own a piece of Kangxi Porcelain, albeit, perhaps, a fairly ordinary one!
When you’re just starting out, these little triumphs are important!
Nic
They certainly are! Glad the others confirmed it was Kangxi and sorry I called the second one wrong, the front of it at a glance looked dotty! I wouldn't regret buying it, though, it is actually quite attractive! You will be able to use it for comparison with other things and can always put it to good use around the house for something or other, even just as a coin dish.
Julia
Hi Julia,
in fairness, all you had to go on were my terrible photos! I thought it could be Japanese too.
But all’s well that ends well! I have two good reference plates and they’re not rubbish or Japanese!
?
Nic
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