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Hi, I just managed to buy these cute little bowls made to look like lacquer. The Ebay seller usually sells Danish porcelain so he knew nothing about them. But competition was fierce and I didn't get them cheap. They are really tiny, one is 8cm/3" diameter, the other only 5,5cm/2 1/8". Perfect condition apart from some gold wear. I have been searching on the web and found (larger) examples from Qianlong as well as a 19th century copy. By comparing with Qianlong and Guangxu bowls I have tried to determine the age of mine but I really can't tell. A Guangxu or even Republic copy might be more probable. Any comments are very welcome.
This one is probably Guangxu:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-chinese-faux-cinnabar-1910023964
These are Qianlong:
http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2015/05/30/32139896.html
Birgit
Birgit, I didn't realise such a thing existed. In fact when we were looking at that red plate with the incised decoration a while back, I wondered if that might be intended to represent cinnabar but didn't say it in case it sounded silly!
As for your bowls, I really don't know. I have done a few searches, out of interest as much as anything and the older ones seem to be darker in colour with a less glossy blue but that is only my first impression from a brief look around.
The shape of the larger one is interesting. I have seen one like that before but I can't remember where - it may have been an early - mid 20th c Japanese piece.
Sorry, I am not being very helpful, but I am sure someone will know more than me!
Hi Julia, thanks for your comment. Faux lacquer porcelain seems rather rare, I couldn't find more than the above websites. Although I worked with a spyder cube for the white balance I now notice that the red looks brighter in the pictures than it actually is. In reality it's darker, about the shade of the Christies bowl.
Birgit
Ah, well that sounds good. I saw a couple of very nice pieces while I was searching. Just a moment ago I was just looking at faux bois pieces (one thing leads to another as you know!) and I found a similarly shaped bowl which is also encouraging:
The bowls you bought seem to lack the definition of the older high level examples posted. The glaze is pooled thicker so the effect of depth isn't as realized. This leads me to think they are lower quality production and perhaps on the newer side. But hopefully I'm wrong. Let us know what you find out.
Yes the pattern on the other examples looks more crisply defined. But they are much larger also. Mine have almost the size of dollhouse porcelain so all in all the decoration is quite detailed.
Birgit
Found this example in the Rose Kerr book “Chinese Ceramics, Porcelain of the Qing Dynasty 1644-1911”
Book states this one is mark & period Qianlong with a diameter of 11.2 cm. with a trompe-l’oeil lacquer exterior and gilded interior in imitation of a metal liner.
Thank you William. This one looks more elaborate than mine.
Birgit
Hello Birgit,
Very interesting bowls you have purchased. Would not worry if yours lacks some detail compared to the examples you have found if I have read the descriptions correctly the Christie's example is real laqure applied over enameled porcelain and therefore is sharper in detail. The example from Aalin Truong is Imperial quality so not surprised if yours is a little less detailed. In the Truong description there are references to museum collections you may find more information about your nice items searching them.
Cheers
Michael
A little update: here’s what Peter says about them:
Based on the images provided, the bowls, judging by the work, details, foot rim and tone of turquoise are I believe examples of porcelain made circa 1930 to 1940s. Faux Bois techniques became very during the Qianlong period and did have a bit of a revival during the Republic era.
Birgit
I am going to disagree with the dating.
Personally based on the turquoise in conjunction with overall look I think circa 1900. Later republican tended to be more bluish than turquoise colour.
Just my thoughts.
Mark
Hi Mark, I personally was inclined to late 19th century too, but I have no other turquoise item to compare the color with. I work with a grey card and a calibrated monitor, but other people's monitors might show the colors differently. Unless another example pops up we will never now for certain.
Birgit
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