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hi guys thanks for all the previous help you have gave me here's a few things i am going to view this week any information on marks or prices is always greatly recived
owners wanting £120 for this silver piece
sellers dates this as 1700s
any help with the vase please and is the broken piece worth anything
Hi Hayley,
The sterling silver cream jug depicting a dragon is beautiful.
It's by or was retailed by a famous store in Japan. Circa 1920's.
It's not cheap nor is it expensive in my opinion.
Here is a similar one:
Mark
Unless that plate is very cheap, I would do as Birgit suggests. I would also say end of 1700s and there are lots of plates around from them. If you are collecting, buy yourself something more special, if that makes sense. I know nothing about silver, but you can rely on Mark's view anyway.
How big is the vase? It is interesting how they have depicted the birds body feathers in the same way as Guangxu dragon scales. That may not be enough to date it, but I think it could be from the end of the 19th c. The birds remind me a bit of the decoration on some of those blue and gold japanese vases.
The green thing looks interesting but I can't say more than that.
@shinigami thanks for the reply i see what you mean when i compare it to other plates from the same era i will look for a better one for around the same price
@imperialfinegems thanks for showing me a comparison on the silver vase,i agree its not really allot of money to part with i love it,i think this will be my first piece of oriental silver for my collection i might be a bit cheeky and show them your picture and price to get a bit of money off
@julia thank you julia i agree with mark also, but i will offer a lower price after marks findings the blue vase is 13 inches tall with no damage,its the marks i dont understand but its really nice the green piece says on the back imperial temple but i think its a tourist thing
Hi Hayley,
It is a four character Kangxi mark which is frequently found on later 19th c items. If you searchnfor it on Google, you will see lots of similar examples and give you the chance to compare other vases of this period with this one.
Thirteen inches is a decent size, you could also compare the price with those sold on ebay. Dragons are very popular but the birds are unusual.
Julia
Ps You are probably right about the green thing. 😊
Ok, just remember that I can't be certain it is from the period, there are good signs, but there are good fakes so make sure you look around and do as much research as you can. Of course, if the seller is selling it as a 19th c vase and it turns out not to be, you should get your money back.
Good luck!
@bigfrank300471 It is helpful to start learning the basic reign marks. It will help you. They are usually apocryphal, meaning they are more modern made items with older marks, but knowing them is useful and interesting. There is a list of them here on the bidamount site so you can begin studying them. Then you can work your way up to getting Gerald Davison's book that lists 4,190 different marks! And that's just the Chinese, so it doesn't even get into the Japanese marks. The thing I have found most helpful is to understand that anything with a real reign mark will have to be of the absolute highest quality. So the presence of a reign mark is a great opportunity to thoroughly and critically examine an object and compare it to known authentic examples. By studying the big auction house and museum pieces we can learn what the real ones should look like then compare to the things we are finding and see if they stand up. Cheers! John
@bigfrank300471 Here's the reign marks page for your reference: https://bidamount.com/chinese-porcelain-reign-marks-an-introduction
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