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Hi,
I found this little plate/saucer/dish, yesterday. I was interested in where it came from, when it was made, so as it was only £0.50, I bought it. It is 14 cms in diameter and about 2 cms high.
The blue is very dark, has almost gone black in places. The decoration appears smudged because the surface of the piece has been imprinted with a kind of cross-hatch pattern, rather like some material had been used to create it, and the colour has gone into the lines. On top of that, the glaze has crackled.
Underneath, there is plenty of crazing but no cross-hatch pattern. There is a patch of glaze within the foot rim and this has two small, rather unclear marks impressed into it. Around all the glaze edges is a very obvious iron oxide line. I did wonder if that was faked, but what is this that is worthy of faking?
It is a strange little dish, but interesting for 50p. I did wonder if it was Japanese given the design, the crackle and the colour of the body abut then other things just don't seem to fit with any pieces I have come across - which of course, isn't many.
I have photos but will post them separately as my pc keeps crashing and I have already lost this post once!
Hope someone can help.
Thank you!
Julia
I should, possibly, add that using a loupe, the glaze shows lots of bubbles running in the crazing and in the indentations of the impressed marks. Maybe that is usual, I wouldn't know. ?
Hi Julia,
I’ll be no help as regards identification, but I just wanted to note how effective the slight flow of the blue and the fact it has run into the crackle to create a texture is! It looks like fountain grass!
one can’t help thinking some thought went into it?
Nic
I think maybe it has. At first, I thought it was just a mess, but then I looked more closely and noted the impressed pattern on the surface. It was certainly worth 50p, just as a piece to ask questions about and maybe learn something.
Julia, Peter was all excited about a plate in last weeks video. It too had a fine cross hatch. My thoughts at the time was how did they do that. My solution would be to lightly press a piece of coarse linen into the clay, when removed the pattern would remain.
That does not help you ID this unfortunately, but it does have a Japanese look as you suggest.
Thanks, Ron. I have seem similar patterns created using cloth on the base of pieces, but not the front until that piece you mentioned, which I seem to remember was Japanese.
Hi Julia,
I know very little about such pieces - but I note there seems to be a two character impressed mark to the base.
I'am just wondering if this may be an individual potters or workshop/kiln mark - the overall look appears Japanese to me ...?!?
But I'am probably way of - hope someone else here can help you ...
Stuart
Thanks, Stuart. That is three of us who think it has a Japanese look. Maybe I will try to do some research on those lines.
Hi Julia,
I have never come across anything quite like that among the Japanese pieces I’ve seen. Could still be Japanese, but I wonder if its more likely from a SE Asian country, which one I’m sure I don’t know. ?
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Hi Todd,
Nice to have you back! ? You may be right. If I find out anything, I will let you know.
Julia
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