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I have had this small box for a number of years and have assumed it is Japanese. It is quite finely done but I have no clue as to its age. I know that Japan is famous for it's amazing metal work and most likely they still produce quality objects today so this box good be relatively new. It is on copper there is no damage, the inside has bright cut decoration with some staining which i guess can be removed without damaging the box. It is 9cmx 7.5cm x 4.5cm. Any thoughts as to it's age based on the decoration style would be very much appreciated.
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Michael
A very attractive box. Very well made.
Judging by the engraved motifs on the inside I would agree that it is probably Japanese with a good age.
It looks like a tobacco box. But I may be very wrong on all counts.
Extra bonus with no damage.
Mark
I also like the extra engraving on the inside , a sign of quality and care. If it's a cigarette box, as it seems to be, then it was probably made for export in japan , after the 1890s would be my guess, into the 1920s. It's probably Japanese , but could also be Chinese because the styles of cloisonne export ware at the time were quite similar. You see cloud formations of the bases of Chinese cloisonne items too.
tam
Hi Michael, if you ever decide to sell I would be interested.
Mark
Tam and Mark thank you for your comments.
Alan don't think I will be selling the box. With the clues Tam and yourself gave me I had a quick look around the internet and you can buy these boxes at reasonable amounts, so might start to collect one or two. Apart from one English dealer who wanted nearly 3k in pounds He wanted that amount because it was yellow and he claimed it was imperial it was the same dimensions as mine and has those nice feet and bright work inside. Wish I had saved the link.
Cheers
Michael
Dear Michael,
You have an attractive box, and perhaps could start a cloisonné collection. I think cloisonné is a little undervalued at the moment, so it's a good time to start.
Best wishes,
Alan
Bear in mind that yellow cloisonne made after 1911 or so has no connection at all with the imperial family, and even before then, I guess there were plenty of export pieces made in yellow - it amazes me what dealers will claim sometimes.
tam
Hello, Michael
Here a cloisonné site that take about the cloud motifs I don’t know if he know what he talking about.But it make sense if you look at the way the clouds change from one time period to next. To me yourlook more Chinese than Japanese the time frame of the 1920 fits the clouds in the site. Here apiece I pickup I’m trying to learn more about when you don’t have any clouds to go by or normal colors or motifs to go by.maybe y’all can help, John
Than you all who took the time to reply much appreciated. John thanks for the link I have saved it and will certainly have a read. Tam yes whenever you speak to a sales person for a car, fridge or toaster you expect a little salesman's fluff but some take it a bit far. I found the link for the yellow box apart from the domed top I think you can see it is the same construction, size and quality of my little box. He or she has not only suggested a Royal connection but has linked it to a master maker. A few steps to far I think.
Regards
Michael https://www.averydash.com/products/japanese-cloisonne-box
I don't know if this "yellow" box above is imperial. Probably not I would think. It is however, a top notch decorated piece with those lovely nice touches that make these things very pretty and stand out from the others. Looks good for cigarettes. 2.2$ is a whopping price. That's a retail plus plus deal for me although maybe that's what they go for. Brettm's box has to be from the same manufacturer and is also fabulous. Best wishes
Thank YOU all for your comments.
Michael
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