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 Richard Gabriel
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Topic starter 15/03/2025 11:46 am  

Hello All, I picked this up and it has been used, by the wear in the center part of the bowl, in multiple matcha tea making. The potting is very fine and expertly crafted. I don't know who the two scholars are but the coy fish in the bottom of the bowl with the baby coy have a meaning. Looking at it under magnification (10x) there is quite a bit of crazing. This is also evident in the 'staining' in the fissures. I tried some translation but it came out as roughly 'go to mountain man with certainty'...another translation gave me a made by 'gozan' which is not anywhere to be found. Any ideas? It is delicately painted, I like the rose color background. I think it is Japanese and not Chinese, but hey, could be wrong on that as well. Cheers!

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 Julia
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15/03/2025 2:08 pm  

I like that, its very nice. I think it is Japanese judging by the figures and writing. Is it earthenware or porcelain?


   
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Topic starter 16/03/2025 7:51 am  

Hello Julia, it rings when tapped a 'dull ring' so it might be more on the stone side but the paste is very light as you can see on the foot rim. Some of the early Japanese bowls were made from the earthenware side but that paste is usually darker and grainier. this is a very fine, light beige paste. I still haven't been able to figure out the script. Thanks,


   
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16/03/2025 2:04 pm  

I don't recognise the top two.  I think the last ones are yama zo.  If George looks in he will know.


   
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16/03/2025 4:05 pm  

It says "Made by KinKozan".


   
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17/03/2025 2:43 am  

Thanks, that is very helpful. I should have recognised that as I have sold a few things from that studio. 😊 

It is quite an unusual design, I can recognise the flowers as being their style but maybe the overall design is copying the chinese pieces that have cartouches set like a window on a plain-coloured background. 

The Kinkozan studio closed around 1930 or just after, so possibly this is one of their later pieces as this style was very popular in China around then.


   
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17/03/2025 3:20 am  

I agree with @julia... The design is very unusual for Kinkozan which I assume is the kinkozan V and from 1875-1927.

I have seen a lot of his work but nothing like this before. 

But he was a very experimental maker. 

Mark 

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Topic starter 17/03/2025 7:37 am  

Well it sure was well used on the inside, I believe the worn fish are a result of the right hand whisking of the matcha tea...The outside still retains some of the gilding, so it was also cleaned the way it should be after the tea is gone, gentle hand wiping...I found it in a junk shop...the stains turned everyone else off, but I knew what it was...


   
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 Richard Gabriel
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Topic starter 17/03/2025 10:33 am  

Just tried to look up Kinkozan I, II, III, IV, V and found virtually zero except for I started it but the rest are nearly invisible. It all starts with Kinkozan VI. Any other books or references on Kinkozan 1-V that you all know of? Thanks! Richard


   
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17/03/2025 11:09 am  

Hi Richard, 

I don't have any books per sai on kinkozan. So I can't point you in the right direction. However, I am sure other members here should be able to assist you. 

Having said that I do come across books on kinkozan on ebay from time to time. So you may try there. 

From memory the kinkozan kiln went way back to about 1645 and continued right up to the last one kinkozan V in 1927.

He was arguably the most prolific and the most awarded of all his clan. His works are highly sought after by collectors especially if they bear his personal mark, which yours does. I believe that towards his end his produce was very commercially produced mainly for the West. These rarely had his personal mark but more of a standard kinkozan square mark. 

During his lifetime he had a huge factory making porcelain and had from time to time many known masters doing commission work for him.

He was very experimental with some of his works and was always looking at different types of things to produce... Like yours which has a Chinese taste or feel to it.

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 17/03/2025 11:22 am  

Thanks Mark! Really appreciate the information. I tried AI via CoPilot as well and got zero. Most of the Kinkozan references are for VI onward, scant available otherwise that I can find. I'll keep poking around as I'd like to know more about the early Kinkozan pieces (if any can be found!). Cheers, Richard


   
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17/03/2025 11:23 am  

@quarker48,

Hi Richard, 

I thought I would share with you and others my favourite kinkozan piece that I bought a few years ago now I think. 

This is something of a rarity because it's kinkozan experimenting with Chinese glaze in the manner of Sang-de- bueuf. It's circa around 1890.

Its the only type that I am aware of and a number of people including Peter said it's rare for him to do this type of glaze. 

Most of the Chinese styled glazes were done primarily but not exclusively by Kozan. 

The glaze on this vase is unreal and one can spend countless hours staring at the and the stars within. 

Oh I just read your last post Richard. If you want to see pieces by him or his kiln I would suggest trying invaluable or liveaucioneers past sales as there will be heaps of sold items. It's free for liveaucioneers but not free unless you are a prolific buyer using invaluable website. 

Mark 

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Topic starter 17/03/2025 11:31 am  

Wow! I would have snatched that one as well! It's great, the three dimensionality of it as well as the glaze. Three toed dragon! Thanks!!! Richard


   
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17/03/2025 2:21 pm  

Lovely vase, Mark !

I feel I should add that not all later pieces marked Kinkozan are actually by him. He had a studio where the best artists of the time produced works - sometimes of lower quality to fulfil the huge demand for Satsuma. Only the very best artisans were permitted to produce pieces under their name.

You will often see pieces at auction referred to as from the Kinkozan studio rather than the man himself even though the pieces bear his name.

My feeling is this tea bowl is a "studio piece" especially as the studio continued till 1932, so after the death of its master, but obviously that is just my opinion.

You could check this site to see if there is more info

https://www.satsuma-database.com/satsuma-a-brief-history


   
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18/03/2025 12:15 am  

Kinkozan was displayed at the Columbia Exposition (Chicago World's Fair) and at the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair in the Japan Pavillion, you could order pieces displayed in a pattern book and have them shipped to you, that is why Kinkozan does turn up in the Midwest from time to time. I think the old poster from the award from the St. Louis World's Fair is in Satsuma, the Joy of Beauty in the Bidamount Reference Bookcase and Gotheborg.com has information on Kinkozan. Although, if I remember correctly, some researchers had St. Louis as being in France instead of Missouri, Gold Medal to Kinkozan. I think you are correct on the green tea stains.


   
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