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I know this is Satsuma, perhaps kinkozan (guessing). The mark is impressed and gilt bordered. I cannot find the mark online or in my references but I love them. Just beautiful. Any help is very much appreciated.
It is most likely an artists Mark. Certainly Meiji era. As it is an artist then mid to late 19th century, and possibly very early 20th century.
For example
The artist Yabu Meizan (1853-1934) had his own studio operating from approx 1880s to 1920s. Extremely high quality decoration. All his work carries his own Yabu Meizan seal, usually in gold. |
However I suspect it might be
Seikozan | |
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An exceptional artist located in Kobe, deducted from early signatures including his location. His finest pieces are exceptional. It has been speculated that several artists might have worked under this name from differences in the calligraphy of the mark. |
It is also contender for
Ryokuzan |
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614. Mark: Ryokuzan, Artist: Chin Ju Kan, c. 1868-69. |
It is a high quality satsuma that is all I know. Usually this type of work is Kozan, or Kinkozan and Kinseizan.
Kozan Sei |
I would call it Kinkozan tsukuru or simply Kinkozan Meiji Era, until you can identify the artist or style more exactly.
Satsuma. Kinkozan tsukuru. |
Kinkozan Sobei | |
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The Kinkozan family have been associated with pottery since 1645. They went on to become the largest producer of Satsuma ware, from the end of the 19th century until 1927 after which the factory closed. By the 1850s Kobayashi Sobei (1824-84), Kinkozan Sobei (artist name Kinkozan IV), started to export his products together with the Kyoto manufacturer Taizan VIII. The market was in particular America. Their main production period was approximately between 1875-1927 under the leadership of Kinkozan V (1868-1927). Regarding styles, in her book Treasury of Satsuma, Sandra Andacht quotes a 19th century visitor to the Kinkozan factory, saying that the same glazed pots were decorated in two styles, the one being called Kyoto or Awata ware, and the other Satsuma |
Thank you for this information. I see I have the mark upside down and it does appear to be Kinkozan Tsukuru.
The inscription on the front will tell you even more. So maybe wait and see if anyone can tell you more about it.
the photos are a little blurred when enlarged but the one of the left says , I think , 'kyoto kinkakuji' or the golden temple/pagoda in Kyoto, and the other other also I think says 'kyoto......something' , proably quite easy to identify as another tourist site in Kyoto.
tam
the photos are a little blurred when enlarged but the one of the left says , I think , 'kyoto kinkakuji' or the golden temple/pagoda in Kyoto, and the other other also I think says 'kyoto......something' , proably quite easy to identify as another tourist site in Kyoto.
358. "Kozan. The characters read Kozan sei, Kyoto. Meiji period (1868-1912). |
Also Egmont has a similar plate with the same kind of description as you mention Tam.
Quality Antique 19/20thC Meiji Japanese Kyoto Satsuma Kinkozan Samurai Dish
Thank you for this information. I just bought these yesterday, $75 for the pair in a shop. I’ve very much wanted to own a piece of high quality Satsuma. All I ever see are the usual export pieces until these.
Is it fair to date these about 1890-1912?
Thank you for this information. I just bought these yesterday, $75 for the pair in a shop. I’ve very much wanted to own a piece of high quality Satsuma. All I ever see are the usual export pieces until these.
Is it fair to date these about 1890-1912?
My opinion would be yes, certainly can be classed as Meiji. Let's hear other opinions. There is an inscription on the front of the plate, this might indicate an artist or studio, and also might help date them more accurately.
They could be 1868 for all we know :). I think Meiji is a safe bet, for those plates.
Did you see the plate on ebay sold for over £200. High Quality Satsuma are very sought after.
I did see that plate on Ebay you spoke if. I watched it close and was amazed almost doubled at the end! I wasn’t sure I had a Kinkozan dish when I saw that but they looked very much alike.
I added better pics of the scrolls. Thanks all.
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