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Hello. Who can tell us what the period of this plate and how much it can cost in this state?
Thanks for help.
Regards,
Val
Perhaps not clearly seen on the photo, but at the top a broken piece
Dear Val,
The decoration of your plate is reminiscent of Kangxi period famille verte (1662-1722), but it is not from that period, it is much later. My estimate of its production date would be the first half of the 20th century.
As for its value, other Forum members may be able to provide you with a more reliable estimate on that than could I.
Best wishes,
Alan
I concur fully with Alan's summary on age.
Mark
Dear Alan and Mark,
Thanks for the information, but maybe you can tell us how you can see that it is a 20th century piece.
Best regards,
Val
Val, I am still working on the finer points of this type of porcelain. If I may use this as a self test. To my eye the red is too bright (modern pigments), it should be more of an iron red. Bright red caused a lot of grief during the Kangxi period in the kiln. The iron red was more easily controlled in the second firing. Actually all the colours are a bit to bright. The porcelain in the Kangxi period would be almost Snow White and velvety smooth on the base. coarser clay was used in newer items. The painting of the animals are not fluid and look to be forced and deliberately drawn were as, Kangxi period should have more of a natural free hand flow in there depiction.
those are my observations Val. Allen and Mark are the real experts, I hope they reply.
Hi,
I also think that whilst this is trying to be Kangxi, I agree with Ron about the red, it strikes a jarring note. Also, the deer doesn't look right and generally the decoration is not refined enough. For me, the central basket looks, stylistically, more like a late 19th century Japanese version ie quite flat.
I am so far off being an expert that I almost hesitate to comment sometimes, but asking questions, saying why you think something, etc is a good way to learn. Some one will always point out where you may have gone wrong.
Also, and this may help you, too, if I am trying to assess something, I search for a genuine example and try to compare the way things have been painted. After a while, you will start to notice certain features that are common to periods. A good fake may be difficult to spot, but it will help you to start to be able to work out what is a later copy.
Peter has a great a library on this site, it is a fantastic resource for looking a genuine pieces.
Hope that helps!
Best wishes,
JUlia
Hi Val,
You asked a question about a piece “in this state”, so I’ll throw my two sense in. The last picture shows the broken area on the top right? That is a substantial chunk. If you have the broken piece and can repair it, then its a piece with a repair. If the broken area is just missing, that will decimate the value, I think its fair to say.
Best Regards, Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Dear Val and Todd,
Though I hesitated to give any opinion on value, since value is always relative and comes down finally to what two people are prepared to pay, the value, whatever it proves to be, is, as Todd says, likely to be decimated by bad damage if the damaged piece is not rare or otherwise desirable. I would take Todd's statement literally. To decimate, to be precise, means to reduce the value of something to a tenth of what it might otherwise be worth. In fact, that's my own rule of thumb for assessing the financial impact of damage on items that are not rare.
Best wishes,
Alan
Dear All,
Thanks for the information about the plate but please can someone explain how to see the difference in colour from kangxi red paint and modern red paint.
Best regards,
Val
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