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03/03/2022 6:35 pm  

This is a mark and period bowl I’m not in agreement with the Minyao theory.


   
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@lotusblack 

Thanks Brian,

It certainly is of the period, I just don't know enough to say Minyao or other wise.  I did try and look up other marked Minyao pieces and it seems that many Yongzheng mark and period pieces are not differentiated, besides a few monochrome plates I found, however those marks were quite sloppy.

Ultimately I am very glad to have this in my hands, I'm gonna have trouble putting it down to eat my dinner tonight.

Jeremy


   
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03/03/2022 6:50 pm  

@jbeer2121 this dish is probably a private order. That my thinking but this dish is in no way for the people. This clue is in the condition. My Kangxi bowl was for the people. 


   
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03/03/2022 7:20 pm  

@lotusblack I didn't know that's what minyao meant. I just pulled it from the Bonhams listing. I agree - Jeremy's dish is phenomenal in quality. I think you're right with the private order direction. 


   
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@lotusblack 

Well this makes me feel a lot better.  I paid quite a bit for it and though I trusted the label and thought it looked right and like a good one, I'm always a bit scared when buying out of my norm.  Thanks.

When you say private order, you mean from the main kiln, but not for imperial manufacture?

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03/03/2022 10:37 pm  

@jbeer2121 some Imperial wares are requested for sale by prominent figures and it’s sold as a private order. It can also be gifted. The piece is made with Imperial standards but not for the court. They can come from the Imperial Kiln or an authorized shop.


   
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04/03/2022 3:13 am  

If Polly Latham said it was Yongzheng period it will be a high quality piece from that period, she would refer to it as having a Yongzheng mark if she doubted the period. There is a similar type of bowl on her site where she makes that distinction.

I find the mark to be a little unusual, but the work is beautiful! This wasn't meant for the masses and I would be very confident in accepting her opinion on the age. 

 


   
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