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Hi All,
I found this little bowl a few weeks ago, and it has me a bit puzzled. At first glance, it looks like a million other late Meiji bowls. It is hand painted. It has a bulls-eye bottom, suggesting maybe Arita. But on closer look, it is a little odd. First, it has a Chinese Ming dynasty mark on the bottom, and I haven't previously found that on a Japanese bowl. Second, the red enamel isn't the classical orangish-red of Meiji period pieces. Instead, it is a brighter, cleaner, more translucent red, with no orange. Third, some features, like the central flower are fairly blurry, in a way that looks wrong for a Japanese bowl. Finally, I found some of the design elements to look decidedly Chinese--for instance, the red diaper pattern on some parts of the bowl, and the central flower. But other elements look Japanese.
I am wondering if this is actually a more recent, mid-20th century Japanese bowl, duplicating the Japanese Meiji style? Or maybe a Chinese copy of the Meiji style?
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Charles
I could be off but it looks like a Kangxi Imari bowl. I’m just getting a Kangxi feeling but I’m no expert.
It is a Japanese bowl, my guess would be around the Taisho period, but I am on a small screen so I may be a few years out.
Charles, What is the size of this bowl. VERY well painted with lots of detail. It looks Japanese to me as well. A lot of the small drawing looks like the Arita bowls as well as the colors. BUT, the foot doesn't look to as the normal Japanese.
I’m not saying it’s definitely a Kangxi bowl but a few things stand out. The boarder on the outside bottom was a 18th century trait. The cobalt in the center of the inside bowl is way to blue for 20th century Japanese. Heep and pile on the blue cobalt I have never seen this on Japanese porcelain but on 18th century Chinese porcelain. I’m not sure of the green enamels that seems Japanese the bowl has both origins in it be.
It definitely is done in an imari/Japanese style, but I feel that it's not drawn as detailed as I'd expect.
Maybe it's a Chinese piece made in an imari style?
I'm an amateur, so don't take my word for it 😉
Clifford
Its Japanese. There's quite a lot of variation in Japanese Imari, with foots, decorations and colors. Most every aspect of Chinese styles was copied at some point by Japanese makers. I would lean late Meiji. Nice bowl.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Thanks all! I am glad it was curious enough to generate some discussion...
@lotusblack I have an oddball Japanese plate that has heaping and piling. I had Peter look at it to authenticate awhile back. So apparently they did use that technique sometimes. Mine is an early 20th C piece.
@johnshoe sometimes I see fragments of things and I overthink the piece. A lot of that reasoning is due to I’m trying to learn to many areas. But I’m at a cross road. If I’m at an estate sale there’s no time to break out the internet there are 25 competitors loading up what ever they see as Asian art. And Im not about to loss a $1000 or $10000 dollar piece being conservative. So if I see traits of many origins styles new old what ever I have to make a spilt decision move or watch the others leave with full boxes. So learning to many areas is how I’m combating the competition. What one person thinks is stiff or unattractive someone else is paying a Premium. But I’m not doing this to make a $1000 bucks or $10000 which both are nicely accepted. I’m using that money to find that big fish we all know a big fish only happens after years of work. I’m looking forward to that day.
@lotusblack I am in the same boat. If I see something that could be good but I'm not totally sure, I go with my gut and what my wallet can afford. Each purchase turns into a learning process. Especially with these oddball pieces because they help us learn crossover, blended and varying styles. But as we learn more our eyes sharpen and we make better and better decisions. If we keep studying and learning it is inevitable we will be the ones whose eyes will be able to find the great forgotten treasures as we scan the rooms of estate sales and antique stores.
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