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I just bought my first wooden Chinese brush pot - I'm assuming it's late Qing or Republic and the style seems more to the Chinese taste.
I was wondering what you thought.
Thank you,
Steve
I like it! But I don't know much about wood. It looks rosewoody so maybe you got lucky and will find out it's huanghuali. In the meantime can you post a picture of a front view of a whole panel to get a better sense of the design?
Glad you guys like it!
I just bought it at auction today, so these are the only photos right now. Weird they didn't take a photo of the front of the cartouche.
I'll post more when it arrives.
So, late Ming style. Interesting. So it's probably late Qing, then?
Looks a little like this one that sold at Christies, although maybe not as finely carved and without the feet:
Some close-ups of the photos already shared, in case it helps.
Also, forgot to mention it's 5 ½" tall.
My gut says this is older than late Qing the grain being deep effected the fine carving but I think it has age patina and ware. I’m not an expert but 18th century could be acceptable.
Congratulations, it is lovely! As Brian says, it is a late Ming / early Qing style. If you do an image search you will find similar ones with the petals, waves around the base and Chilongs dating to that period but they look to be a different wood. That could mean yours is a later (Republic?) copy, but equally it may be of that earlier period. It does look good and it may be these were made in various woods or, more likely, I may be wrong about it being different. 😊
Hi Steve -
For comparison …
Attached image of a huanghuali brush pot, attributed late Ming/early Qing, sold Dukes, 12th November 2015 for £39,000 hammer. Part of a one owner sale of scholars objects acquired between 1950/90’s …
Yours is a very nice example of such but, as with others, I know little about woods. Hopefully Tim @greeno107 will see this tread and give his opinion …
Stuart
@sharonp Thank you! I bought it online from Antique Arena, Brooklyn, via Live Auctioneers.
@ming Thanks! That one is bigger, the wall is thinner, the carving seems to be more fluid, and the color of the wood is different. Same with the one from Christies that I shared. Mine does seem to lack some of these qualities. The auction house thought it was 19th c.
@julia Thank you! When I get ahold of it, if there's still some doubt, I'll have Peter take a look at it.
Is it Mark who has so much knowledge of wood?
Update: the brush pot arrived. It's heavy for its size (5 ¾" tall) and it looks more monumental in person. There is a nice scent to it, kind of like a cross between a fresh fir tree and sandalwood - bright but slightly musky. There is a feint iridescence to the surface. It does seem a little dry. Should I apply a little furniture oil?
The carving is exact and reveals a confident, practiced hand and, although rote, the decorative effect is harmonious with the four "petals" and mirror-image hornless dragons holding a flower in their mouths (are they lilies?) above the bottom trim of clouds (?)
There is some wear to the rim and the foot. The interior bottom doesn't show signs of dimples, something I would assume would be visible if it had been used, but I've never examined one before.
I went a few hundred dollars over their estimate but I'm very glad I did! I will send off a request to Peter and see what he says after I take some better photos outside when it stops raining.
Thanks for reading!
P.S. I am thinking this is not huanghuali for a few reasons:
-I see no "ghost face" knots
-it seems to be too dark and, in fact, it looks like it's been stained. Not sure if this was a normal part of the process of woodworking back in the day or not.
-the smell, while I find pleasant, I can't rule out that it could be considered "pungent" rather than "honey like." 🤔 It's clearly a hardwood as it's rather heavy.
Regarding age:
-It doesn't have the removable hole in the bottom which the older ones seem to have from what I can find.
-The lack of wear on the inside bottom and the pool of what appears to be stain there as well suggests it was stained, maybe to look older?
-The thin foot rim doesn't match with what I've been able to find on the internet for 18th c. or older brush pots
Overall, I still love it. I'd like to give it a furniture oil rubdown but I'll await Peter's word. Seems to have been neglected and seems a little dry.
Just watched Peter's appraisal: he said it's not old but that it's very well made and not made to deceive. The fact that I can smell the wood is a sign that it's relatively new and he said there wasn't enough wear on it, nor that there would be the cloud border at the base.
I didn't overpay, though, and if I were to buy this new from the craftsperson it would have cost more.
So there we are! 🙂
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