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I got all 4 at an estate sale this week 18th century I believe. Dehua large lotus bowls.
Very pretty; are they in good condition? I am not convinced that they are 18th c.
As you know, it can be hard to tell from photos, but your bowls remind me of the pedestals that some 20th c figures stand on with lotus flowers applied to the sides.
They are usually chipped, so if yours do turn out to be 18thc, it is amazing they are still intact. Which if they all are, is something else that raises doubts, but not impossible of course!
They are pretty, but I concur with Julia that these do not look 18th century, nor Chinese for that matter. I think the aesthetic of these, and the very shiny glaze looks alot more Continental than Asian. Maybe France or Italy. I'll take a look in my dehua book later if time permits.
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Hi Brian,
I owned one of the Dehua Lotus Bowls myself and sold it on Catawiki for about 150$, 3 or 4 years back...
All of your Bowls are 2nd half of the 19th Century. The style and shape of the parts give it away.
Greetings,
Carsten
with Best Regards...
Carsten
I have verified with the Sotheby’s and Christie’s example size and weight. They are exact plus they are all soft paste. Julia yes the pedals do unfortunately have chips. No copy would be able to achieve same diameter.
Here is a pics of the lotus flower. Sotheby’s and mine.
And chips.
I have just looked at Christie's and Sotheby's examples, but I can't see where it gives the weight. They are very attractive pieces. Which of your photos shows the actual colour of the bowls, please?
New pictures
@lotusblack I find blanc de chine impossible to date. Whatever the tells are I don't know them. But these are cool things regardless of age, so congrats on finding them. Let us know as you learn more about them. John
@johnshoe they are very under appreciated and valued. I learned a few things the inside of the flowers are different from the copies also it must be soft paste if you don’t see ribs is vintage there will also be glaze cracks on the soft paste the color is also a little more of a cream color. That’s what I have found so far. Oh like Julia mentioned the old ones always have chips and cracks. Because the edges are really thin. One other thing is they are all missing the center insert so if they haven’t been scrubbed you will see a dried water line.
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