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It is fun to look at the details, what is that hanging in the lower limbs of the pine tree in the left lower side, looks like a python or maybe it is a vine. Do they have pythons in China, maybe a mythical varmint of some kind? Also the sails or mat like structure on the small boats, artist did a good job with the basketry looking sky, has a tropical feel to parts, but not tropical vegetation. I hope Peter sheds some light on origin, did they produce anything this fine in the Phillapines or Southeast Asia?
@sharonp It's a vine on a pine tree. It has some type of meaning in Chinese culture... I just can't find it. I known I've seen it on a porcelain piece... blue & white maybe. Ugghh! I'm getting old and forgeting things.
Since I can not find a similar plaque, I've been looking at design elements. Things seem to line up better with Kangxi than Qianlong.
Look at the manner of the water rendering - I've included an image of water from the Kangxi Emperor's Southern Inspection Tour...
And here, I've put an image of the rocky mountains from the same scroll series...
There are very few examples of Kangxi cinnabar lacquer - none that I've seen that look like my panel, so I'm pulling at straws.
I've also considered that the panel is part of a miniature table screen (the panel that would slide into a stand) that has been mounted into a later period box. So, I don't think the box adds or deters from the value.
This table screen theory opens the possibility that the panel may have some design or caligraphy on the underside, but I have no intentions to try removing it.
Here's a wave comparison.
The 16/17th c. and the Qianlong example are from pieces sold at Christie's...
@sharonp Found a Kangxi example of B&W porcelain with a pine and vine motif… MET museum.
Like the vase, maybe the scene on my plaque depicts Red Cliff.
This is a fascinating discussion. After being fooled by fake cinnabar, I must say that your exposition and photos here has given me a little more confidence. It's a beautiful piece!
I agree, it is lovely! I would have had no idea what it was, so I, too, am finding this is a very useful, interesting discussion.
@julia I’m really glad to hear my post has been informative.
Of course, the plaque is a unique find, which makes most everything I’ve said pure speculation.
I hope I’m right.
Too funny! 😄
Well, at least we'll all have a good laugh with you. 😁
And we will all learn with you, too.😊
@greeno107 Good job finding an example, certainly seems they could have influenced the decoration, I too have found the discussion fascinating.
Feeling more comfortable about the idea of the panel being 17th c. In this example of a 17th c. round box (similar size as my box panel) sold by Sotheby's, the water and sky are of the identical carving pattern - I couldn't quite get the images to equal scale, but take a look.
This sale was held in November 2021 in London. Among the many lacquer items, there was also this 17th c. cinnabar lacquer table that is larger in size (4-5 times larger), but again, you can see the water is the same rounded scale pattern.
The catalogue note suggests these particularly detailed scenes are very rare with only about 70 known in public and private collection.
Imagine having that table in the house. "Kids! Don't touch! Fido! Get away from there! Kitty! Get off!!!" I guess I'd keep it in storage.
@steve True story... years ago I bought a large cinnabar table with 12 dragon design, which if you didn't know is an imperial motif.
The seller's owned a multi million dollar condo on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale. The owers at the time had no idea of its age and value, and it was the favorite spot for their beloved pet miniature poodle who did his best to tear me aparat everytime I tried to inspect it.
I bought the table, but unfortunately it was not a Qianlong period table, but rather a 1970's museum quality replica made during the exhibition of Chinese antiquities when China first opened to the Western world....still brought a substantial amount of money when I sold it.
Fortunately, lacquer is extremely tough stuff.
Well... Peter has responded, and I have good news and bad news.
The good news is that Peter said the fine detail is indicative of the kind of lacquer in the Palace Museum. The bad news is that based upon the photos I sent, he feels the piece is not actually lacquer, and cast rather than carved.
I have sent him additional clear close ups and performed a hot needle test - definately carved lacquer. So, let's see what Peter thinks on the second go about.
I'll try not to get too excited over the characterization of being 'something one finds in the Palace Museum'.
There's still hope, then. We appreciate the update and good luck!
Your story about the table just goes to show how high quality and honest revival pieces can be valuable and how territorial poodles can be.
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