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Well, here is my newest antique store find. At first I passed on it because of the damage and I thought it might be some kind of transfer printed item because of the spotty coloration of the enamels. But I kept thinking about it and eventually went back a week later for another look and decided to buy it. Now I am thinking it could be hand painted. As far as the yellow, it seems brighter than most Kangxi examples I'm seeing online. I noticed when looking at it through my loupe that the yellow ground has a faint, fine crackle to the glaze. It also has a lot of little black specs. I'm still not sure what to make of the appearance of the red and green being so worn looking. The enamels kind of look like they flaked off or pooled a bit during production to cause this look. Not sure if this is a major defect or if this was actually done on purpose to achieve a unique appearance, but I can't say that I have seen anything quite like it, other than it sort of reminds me of how gilt looks at times when it partially wears off. The foot feels very smooth, is finely rounded, and the inner glaze line on the base is done with total precision. Though I have no experience handling Kangxi marked pieces I do aesthetically like the way this mark is presented, and it seems very crisply done (what's left of it anyway!) - it's nicely placed and proportional. The vase is just under 8 inches high and just over 4 inches wide. There is an old repair to the neck where a large piece broke off. And there is significant chipping around the bottom that I suppose might have happened in association with a stand and having been lamped. I'm not sure whether or not it has a correct shape or size for an older mallet vase. The examples I am looking at seem to vary somewhat in shape. I do feel that it is nice to hold - seems to fit well in the hand. And to my eye is has a charming decoration, so ultimately that is why I decided to buy it. Well, that and the off chance that it's actually a mark and period Kangxi vase, so there is that. But regardless, it's a lovely little vase and a learning opportunity, so with that I will leave it to you all to chime in and teach me something. Cheers! John
Could the vase have been repainted?
The body could be Republic but the painting style without outlines looks a bit later to me.
Birgit
John,. What an interesting find!
Kangxi mark, but the vase is late 19th c, or perhaps Republic early 20th c. During the Republic, they really seemed to favor creating copies of the Qualifications nf, which is why I generally assume Kangxi revival marks are from the late Qing.
But, the bird decor is quite interestingly rendered, like shanghai style, not quite qianjiang, but more a blend.
You need to clean your foggy camera lenses please! Shoot a close up of the bird is n very bright natural light please.
I notice annorange iron stain on the foot rim....that would rule out Kangxi.
What do the lamp parts look like?
@greeno107 can you explain the iron stain thing to me please I have my greatest struggles with the iron stain oxide on the base for dating?
Hi Johnshoe -
Kangxi mark but very far from ‘of the period’, the painting style, enamel tones, footrim, base glaze colour which appears rather white, and writing of mark/calligraphy style is all wrong ...
I will defer to others above regarding attributed dating ...
Stuart
@greeno107 It had already been delamped so I didn't get to see the hardware. I too would like to hear more about the iron stain issue, and I will try to get some better pictures tomorrow in the light. Sadly, my camara lens has a hundred scratches which causes the fogginess. I'll see if I can beg my wife to take a picture with her camara which is much better. However, she was a little annoyed when I brought home another supposed treasure, so we'll have to see if she cooperates. Also, could you tell me what "Qualifications nf" means?
@tam18 Well, I find your comment about the iron stain interesting, because Greeno suggested that the iron stain was one way to tell it wasn't Kangxi, so I am a bit baffled why you seem to think someone would want to deliberately apply it? Can you please explain further? Also, I did try to clean it off but it is definitely not anything that seems to wash off, so I'm not sure if the applied stuff would wash off or not, or if it is something that gets baked on. I'd like to know more information about this if you have it. Thanks!
@lotusblack So, I'm just going to discuss the iron (rust) appearance for Qing porcelain - the standard is different for other periods.
In the early Qing, the quality of the paste was high kaolin (what makes the paste white) and low in iron (what makes the unglazed porcelain orange).
Even export porcelains into the 18th c. generally had low iron, so the foot rings are usually free of any orange coloration.
In the 19th c., the quality of the paste declined for non-imperial wares, and especially towards the end of the 19th c., you often see a fine orange edge on the foot, just at the point where the clear slip ends and the unglazed foot begins.
The photos are a bit blurry, but John's mallet vase appears to have the orange on the edges of the foot ring, but also has an orange smudge on the foot ring. That alone is enough to eliminate it from being genuine Kangxi, but there is possibley more to surmmize.
The smudge could be artificially added to create the appearance of she, as Tam18 has pointed out, but my guess is that it is spilt iron red from the flower decoration from the vase that got fired into the foot rim...a lack of attention one might expect in the late 19th c.
Tam also points out the flaky enamel...which is important, but I have a different experience. Rather than a sign of being a new vase, for me this is a further sign that the vase is 19th c.
I have seen many Guangxu period porcelains that suffer from unstable base enamel that chip and flake. Turquoise, yellow, and pink seem to be the worst culprits of flaking.
@greeno107 So, this is interesting. I am inspecting the foot carefully with the loupe and I do not see any orange around the edges. It is just that one burn spot, which I think might be from the red like you say. Also, I do see a little bit of yellow here and there where some of that spilled over. Now, for some reason I thought I had heard the opposite of what you are saying, and that the 18th C items do have the iron oxide ring. So this is good for me to get clarity about. At any rate, this vase doesn't have it except that one spot, which seems not to be iron oxide but the red enamel spill over. I would also like to learn more about this flakey enameling. Did that happen during production? It doesn't feel or seem like anymore is going to come off. Everything seems to be well adhered at this point.
Look at the overall yellow glaze on your vase. Is it a lemon yellow color that is more opaque than translucent? If it is, then it a overglaze enamel which was imported from the west in the first part of the 20th century according to Nigel Wood’s book on Chinese glazes.
As for the Kangxi mark on the base, please memorize and always use this phase: “Oh look, there is a Kangxi reign mark on the bottom of this (insert object name). That just increased the odds against it of being actually Kangxi by about a thousand to one!”
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