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Hey Folks,
I am curious your thoughts on this silk. It has a Liberty Co London label which dates to ~1900-1920 or so. Does this look okay for that era?
It seems to be in exceptional condition and quite large almost 3ft by 3ft.
Just wondering what you all think.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy this looks to be a court badge of some sort. The dragons are imperial dragons this style was court only. But was more likely a panel that was salvaged after the last emperor. A lot of the panels were sold to local shops and turned into tourist pieces for the west. This badge was most likely refurb and sold during the 1920 to 1930. The crowded space makes me think it’s a Qing fragment as embroidery during the republic period had more spacing.
Isn’t 3ft by 3ft too big for a badge?
The Made in China, could well just refer to the "package" as exported, but it does look to be in good condition with no obvious sign of wear. If this was salvaged, I would expect to see some signs of use or distress.
Is it hand stitched? I can't enlarge adequately to see the details. It could be that Liberty commissioned pieces like this, maybe as wall hangings or side table covers. They sold a lot of oriental/Indian pieces.
Or the label was added later to give provenance. I think you will have to try to judge the age by colours, lack of fading, stitches and materials. It is very nice, though. I like it a lot.
Julia,
I thought it was a bit large for a badge...
A regular client brought it into the shop, purchased at a charity shop.... I couldn't believe my eyes.
I thought it was made prior to certain export agreements, and ultimate sold as extracted and sold export. all hand stitched and exquisite so as I look at it.
its lovely, but not even remotely my area.... I just know Chinese silks are strong at the moment....
Jeremy
Brian,
Thank you for the explanation... I wondered if all the stamps on the reverse were worrisome. but I also assumed this was late Qing by looks, with my very little knowledge on these sorts of things, and I wondered if it made sense to list it as late Qing. I still cannot believe she, my customer, found it a t a church sale, i hate that I fall in love with things when I first see them.
Jeremey
Jeremy
What a lovely thing to find in a charity shop! I wonder where it has been kept. It is too big to be a badge from this period. I think large ones existed in early Qing but had just one creature on them. I also seem to remember that Imperial badges were round. It isn't 2 pieces joined together in the middle as froma robe, is it?
Old Liberty catalogues exist, it might be worth seeing if you could find some online to look through. Chinese embroidery was apparently a popular export throughout the 19th c and before, but if it was sold by Liberty then I suspect they imported it and the Made in China is relevant to the dating ie after 1919, I think? Perhaps it might be easier to say early 20th c, possibly late Qing and leave it up to the buyer. What will sell it is the quality and condition.
I have an article about Chinese embroidery, I will email you the link later in case it is useful.
I disagree with the assumption a badge must be worn and not displayed. It’s a known fact court badges were displayed during ceremonies. I looked a the panel today on my big screen I can clearly see seams in the main panel not talking about the added boarders if there are seams it mostly likely indicates a fragment on a robe. I still believe it’s late Qing.
That is why I asked Brian, I saw that, too. I couldn't see it further along though, only at the edges.
Julia,
The seam runs just under the dragons or slightly past them, and I don't see it in the middle. Kinda odd to me.
Thanks for the email btw. I have actually had a number of pieces in the past that were sold through Liberty, that were clearly imported and converted into other things. I am searching old catalogs at the moment to try and find a silk like this.
Jeremy
Interesting link, thanks Brian.
I really don't know much about silks, so seeing the stitching is super helpful.
Cheers,
jeremy
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