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Hi!....This is a recent Estate sale purchase....its a large Chinese Vase its approx 16.5 in Ht x 7.5 in width ....it in fair condition with a couple of chipped areas underneath the petals of the pattern of the mouth.....its a pale lt. bluish ground with cobalt design ....at first glance I thought there was a pic of a fish....but the body and legs are similar to a horse or something??...while the mouth is wider like a dragon....it was the last day of the sale so the vase was reasonably priced....and I didn't use my magnifying glass for closer inspection as I usually do, so after I got outside in the noon sun, I could see some areas where it looked like someone had tried to paint or add some extra free hand design for some reason??.....and I'm not sure just what kind of animal it is supposed to be....it's not a Ludon, I dont think??....but I could be wrong....the Ludon pic that Ive seen had a larger and more muscular body....but similar to a Ludon...the pic also looks like a blend of several animals of some kind.....if someone knows anything about this animal and vase...please feel free to share your thoughts......Thanks!
Hi Alesia -
The animal depicted one your vase is a 'Qilin', one of the four great mythological beast of China, sometimes likened to unicorns, although they also have certain leonine characteristic ...
They have been symbols of grandeur, illustrious of spring and wise administration since 2000 BC, and are said to 'tread so lightly that they leave no footprints and so carefully as to crush no living thing' ...
A very popular ceramic motif, especially from the mid 15th to early 16thC, and again the mid 17thC ...
Stuart
@ming1449 ......it sounds so interesting!....so much so that I wanted more...I'm going to have to look it up......Thanks so much for the information!
Dear Alesia, the name of the glaze is celadon.
Stuart already answered you about the animal, and Mark about the dating.
The painting that you see on the base are the remnants of the varnish applied by a restorer for hiding the crack.
You can easily remove it completely with acetone.
Regards,
Giovanni
@clayandbrush .....I always refer to Celadon in Chinese porcelain to me ..... as being green....mint green....a seafoam green.....grass green .....tones of green etc......I usually don't associated the light bluish hue as being Celadon but I do know the Chinese do consider that as being Celadon .....the free hand paint I was referring to is added within the drawing of the Qilin and the clouds etc.....when I look closely I can see the difference...it looks like paint was added after the firing....on top of the glaze.....there seems to be a difference in the style of the drawing......as if it was a after thought
Dear Alesia, I confirm that the name is celadon, regardless the hue.
I can see now what you mean about overpainting, it is especially visible on the upper cloud of the third picture.
Bad news, that has been made by the restorer. Now there are two possibilities.
The worst one is that the vase is damaged, hence overpainted and the decoration “retouched”.
Judging by the conditions of the varnish that we see on the base, the restoration is not recent, so by inspecting closely those areas you could see if the glaze has been over sprayed.
Or, having the vase a big neck, you could put a strong light inside the vase and see by translucency if there are hided cracks in those areas. Or simply looking inside the vase.
If restored, all the added varnish and colors can be removed by acetone, but you must judge if it is the case to do that according to the results of your inspections.
The second possibility is that the “restorer” is not an ignorant one, and he just made some retouching here and there, because looking “nicer” to his taste. It seems impossible but it happens, it depends from how professional he is. If that is the case, I will have no doubts in removing all the “improvements” by acetone.
Regards,
Giovanni
I didn't notice that, but can see now what you mean. Is that a crack that runs through that cloud? It maybe a reflection.
@imperialfinegems Wow! It truly is a remarkable carving.
Has there ever been an instance where jade has naturally formed in this manner?
I have an old jade book that shows a piece of jade from the palace collection that looks like a piece of meat (pork if I remember correctly).
@greeno107 I think your post traveled from another topic. Since you mentioned the pork piece in Taipei palace museum, it’s dyed shoushan soapstone, not jade. With all due respect to people who love that piece, I personally don’t get it - why people would be so interested in an “art” that looks like pork 🙂
With due respect it's jasper carving not jade or soapstone.
Personally I don't like it. But I do like the jadeite cabbage. Incidentally it was cleverly repaired.
Mark
Mark, you are right - it’s jasper (seems I need to study to define what soapstone is and/or it includes). Glad that we are on the same page in term of our view on “art”.
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