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Not sure if this is Japanese or Korean. Initially, I thought it was a tokkuri. But the shape, large size, foot and design all are not typical. I had a bit more luck looking for Korean bottle vases for similar examples, but not really anything to match. The foot is much more refined than a typical tokkuri. The shape is very globular, almost like a moon vase. But with a neck of course. The crackling, in particular, makes me think it has decent age to it. Thanks, Todd
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Hi Watership
It's a very unusual looking vase. Looks Korean with perhaps the hand/influences of a Japanese artist.
It's not recent by the way of the lip in my judgment. Could be 19th century.
Very nice piece!
Mark
@watership Good to see you have been shopping, starting to think you must have gone on annual leave. The opening appears like it may have received a stopper of some sort, did these bulbous bottles have stoppers? Lovely color.
Hi Todd,
That shape is very reminiscent of what is called a water monkey in the west, Right down to that thickened part around the top rim. Unsure if they made them to this design in Asia. It is very hard to see properly but the white when you look inside the top part in your photo looks sort of painted on it is uneven in a way that don't look like normal glaze that has run. Could your bottle be delft ? Is it porcelain ?
It is very early morning here so I am probably not fully awake so might be seeing something that is not there. Long journey for us today so making an early start back Monday will be interested to see others thoughts.
Michael.
https://collection.maas.museum/object/101320
https://www.australianantiques.com.au/artworks/?idArt=857
Michael, hope it is ok to ask but I am unfamiliar with that term, why is it called that?
Todd, was wondering where you were. Glad you have been finding nice things, I think that is a lovely old piece but whilst the decoration looks Japanese, I am not so sure of the shape nor the base.
I like it.
Julia @julia
Don't know the origin of the name but they made them in England usually out of Terracotta to keep the water cool. Will have a search when I am back home next week to see if I can find the origin of the name. I am most likely on the wrong tram as far as Todd's nice item anyway... it was the shape of it and the flange at the top that pointed my mind in that direction.
Thanks, Michael. I have heard of a *something* monkey but can't remember what.
Maybe monkey wrench is what I am thinking of or a *something -something else* that sounds odd. I will look on line and see what I can see.
Julia apparently they called them Guglets or Goglts as well as water monkey . They did make them in the east. Poor Todd will see all these posts not about his pot.
Gone now
Michael
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-blue-white-canton-china-468962855
Thanks, Michael. Hopefully, Todd won't mind and maybe his can be called a guglet and he will be pleased to have found that out.
I have heard of those but didn't associate the two. 😊
Hi Mark, that is very much what I was thinking. Seems Korean, except the design looks more Japanese. And the shade of blue does not have the silvery tinge often seen with Korean items.
Hi Sharon, still here in Thailand...in fact a bit stuck here since the epidemic broke. There were zero cases here for a while, now a few have popped up in the North due to some illegal border crossings. I’ll be headed out shopping again this morning 🙂 .
Micheal, thanks for the new info. I’d never heard of a water monkey either. Interesting! Definitely reminiscent.
Hi Julia, Yes, I don’t mind in the least, you are right 😋 . I’d heard the term guglet before, I guess from Peter’s videos. I was under the impression it refers to a shrunken version, not sure. The one I have is quite large, the biggest one like this I own now. So, what would the shape be called when its oversized as opposed to undersized? I need to read up on some suffixes. Or maybe “guglet” has no size attached to the meaning... Yes the decoration looks Japanese to me too. Maybe a Japanese item with heavy Korean influence? The foot definitely is not at all what I expected to see when I turned it over.
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