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What do you all think of this? I wonder if it is mark and period, or is it a later copy, say 19th century?
Thanks,
Jeremy
That’s no Kangxi paste.
In my opinion modern. Look at the reflection from the lights. They shouldn’t be that crisp. Also they seem to have applied something to make the surface more dull.
Birgit
Thanks everyone for your input. I had originally bid on this and was planning on posting it here when I first bid on it, I didn't put much on it, and lost so I didn't post it. A friend of mine sent me the pictures and said he had won it so I figured I would post and see what folks thought.
Thanks again,
Jeremy
I have attached a couple of photos of my Kangxi mirror black to use as a reference for the other piece. Notice how the glaze thins to a brownish glaze color at the lip of my vase. The base gives you a good idea of the paste used in period wares. I have never seen that shape used with mirror black.
Thanks for the photos, I have a few Kangxi plates and had a small vase a while back, the color is/was always consistent. As far as the fading to brown, most of the vases I have found at the major auctions don't seem to do that except on the 19th century examples a few do and the miniature ones, I am curious if it is just that their photos do not show it?
-Jeremy
These have similarities to the one I posted, one of the reasons I was torn if I should have kept bidding or not.
In referencing Nigel Wood’s book titled “Chinese Glazes”, mirror-black glaze became popular in the early 18th century and continued through the 19th century. “The glaze is best at a medium thickness, but if it used thinly on a light body it can vary from golden-brown to black...”
“...a fine mirror-black effect from 1220 C upwards in both oxidizing and reducing atmospheres, but tends to run if fired higher than about 1250 C.”
My example ran slightly at the lip when fired and I had been told by Mike Vermeer that this happened in early mirror-black pieces.
Interesting, and thank you for the clarification. I certainly didn't doubt yours, just wondered why so many of the sold ones were pure black.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Dear all,
I believe that most probably the vase is not 18th C. but much later, although the picture of the base is out of focus and it is not possible to appreciate the paste and foot.
Dear Birgit, the surface of the glaze is not too much crisp. It is actually crisper than what we see on this vase. I have a 19th century baluster mirror black that I think I will list for sale next week, which surface is really mirror like.
Dear William, if the picture is correct, it doesn’t seem brown what we see at the rim of your vase, but rather greenish/greyish on my screen.
Regards,
Giovanni
My friend says he will bring it by and let me photo it in person once he receives it, personally I would just like to examine it. I will definitely check out yours when you list it.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Pulled it back out of cabinet & looked at rim with my 10x loop in the sunlight. The best I can describe the rim area is that the black elements of the glaze have separated into very small, irregular patches that lie on top or in a very translucent brown/grey layer over the white body.
Probably have reached the limits of my iPad camera for such extreme detail.
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