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Topic starter 24/07/2021 8:11 am  

Holle, Can anyone identify this japanese mark?   

thanks in advance,

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24/07/2021 10:34 am  

When enlarged it reminds me of a Grocho Marx mask, but maybe it is supposed to be a stylized owl, just does not look like script to me.


   
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24/07/2021 10:42 am  

I have been told this could be a production identification code. Etc number


   
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24/07/2021 10:44 am  

@lotusblack  I tried Lita Xu Ling Kelley site and some others without finding it, hopefully someone will have seen it.


   
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Topic starter 24/07/2021 12:02 pm  

@sharonp @lotusblack

thanks guys... It looks like quite an old Japanese vase, here's a detail of the rim / base..

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24/07/2021 12:49 pm  

Japanese Seto ware maybe


   
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24/07/2021 2:06 pm  

May we see the whole thing please?


   
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Topic starter 25/07/2021 2:44 pm  

@julia @lotusblack @sharonp

thanks.  I can't upload any decent pictures because I'm picking it up next week.  But here are some poor quality photos.  Quite a busy vase, lots going on.  It's the koi dragon myth, with pheonix and deer.  Not sure why deer?  anyway it looks pretty old, but I can't find the exact style.  It looks older than Meiji to me, looks like lots of rust spots and ware.  Any ideas?

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25/07/2021 3:51 pm  

This vase looks to have extremely high quality painting. This was not an export piece in my opinion but for someone important. I’m alway a little nervous when it’s this nice. Better pictures will help. If you haven’t paid for it yet maybe get Peter opinion. 


   
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25/07/2021 9:51 pm  

Stunning Vase, so intriguing to have the backmark and not know ( might be japanese Artia imari ) ..maybe try this

 

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https://archive.org/details/japanesemarkssea00bowe/page/80/mode/2up

https://archive.org/details/catalogueofmorse00bostrich/page/n539/mode/2up

 

No doubt you have seen these in your search and i have seen similar pair also described as Seto. 

09359a Antique Pair Japanese Meiiji Imari Blue & White Arita Porcelain Temple Vases 19C 1

 

A stunning pair of monumental Meiji period Japanese Imari Arita Yaki blue and white porcelain temple vases 

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25/07/2021 11:36 pm  

How tall is it, looks like it might be a tall floor vase.


   
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26/07/2021 1:22 am  

It looks quite beautiful. Thanks for the pictures.  Maybe the mark is more to do with who it was made for rather than who made it? It is a little like crown marks.


   
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It looks quite beautiful. Thanks for the pictures.  Maybe the mark is more to do with who it was made for rather than who made it? It is a little like crown marks.

The mark is in the typical position that a pottery makers leaves it. In fact some with a little more knowledge could deduce a little bit more just by the position of the mark.  The position offset from centre near the base rim is the location of the makers mark and indicates that this is the mark from the studio artist or factory that made it.  


   
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26/07/2021 4:42 am  

I know the placement is fine, it was just an additional suggestion.


   
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Topic starter 26/07/2021 6:24 am  

@lotusblack Thanks Brian, I'm paying cash on collection, so I can have a look before paying.  Yes the painting is something else..


   
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