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Hi,
Please could someone tell me what metal they think this might be?
I left a lazy bid on this vase because I thought it was pretty. It was described as Japanese, Meiji, Bronze. It certainly has an art nouveau look which is what I liked, but I was pretty sure it wasn't bronze, the weight seemed too light and the colour too iron-like. In fact, I thought it might be iron with some stray silver paint on the bottom that I could remove.
Anyway, only one other person bid so I got it but have discovered that the "silver paint" is in fact the metal and the black is some kind of paint. It really reminds me of something I have seen before. Partly it is a little like a Sumida Gawa piece I have which has a ringed effect and black paint which scratches off easily, but I think it is the silver metal coming through the black that is familar, but I don't know where from.
I am probably going to send it back as not being as described, but the other option is I sell it - only is it going to be worth more than I paid which was a bit under €25 (that includes shipping)? I guess it really depends what it is. It has a mark, in case anyone can read it or recognise it. It is only about 6 or 7 inches high. Any ideas what this metal might be? Could it be tin? Or that metal called German Silver? It is quite shiny/silvery in real life, especially on the base rim. It feels thin and hard, it isn't giving under pressure - just as well if I want to return it! 😊
Thanks for any opinions.
Julia
What a unusual jug of sorts.
I think it is either Japanese or possibly Korean.
I dont think it's bronze. If it was actually silver I doubt that it would be painted etc. So perhaps another alloy.
It certainly wasn't expensive and it's value would be entirely subjective to either or both of knowing what the alloy is and who the maker is.
It looks like it has some age to it. Perhaps early 20th century.
I do hope someone here can enlighten us all. Failing that I would ask Mr I. Nagy from Asianart forum on the maker.
Sorry I couldn't help you with this one.
Mark
Thanks, Mark. I agree that it looks to date from around then - and I have just realised the photo doesn't show the decoration. I will take another a little later.
Hey Julia,
I cant really comment on the mark or the age, but it reminds me of iron kettles in Japan, they often have the makers marks cast into the side, and the iron is lacquered on the exterior and burned in to create a durable finish. As far as figuring out the mark, there are a great many folk type metal smiths that produce these. It may be virgin iron, since it is silver in color, which would be quite pricey to produce, and in turn has quite a bit of value, a reconstituted iron kettle, vs a virgin iron kettle in cost is about three times less. If you give me the exact dimensions and weight I can at least compare it to a number of Iron, brass, aluminum, and various alloy pitchers I have at the shop, but I do suspect it is virgin iron. Of course you could just stick a magnet to it. 🤣
I think it quite an interesting form, and I look forward to the pictures of the design.
Jeremy
Thanks Jeremy. You reminded me I forgot to mention that the first thing I did, even before I noticed the flaking black paint was stick a magnet to it to see if it was iron - nothing really happened, it certainly did not stick.
It weighs 300 g, I think the seller said it was a bit less. It is six inches high, 3 inches wide, reducing to 1 inch at the neck and 1 and a half at the mouth. The base is 1 and 3/4 inches.
Interesting what you said about kettles. It does remind me of old saucepans where the non-stick coating flakes away exposing a silvery metal. But clearly it isn't iron if the magnet doesn't stick.
Here is the other side, looks to be a water plant.
@julia I'm intrigued by this thing. Personally I like it. Not sure what to make of the metal and paint, etc, but I think it looks to have some nice age. I'd keep it if I were you.
Thanks, John. It is a style I like, so I am tempted. I can always sell it later. I am sure I would get my money back.
I have no idea. I will look into how it might look, thanks for the tip.
Thanks to John's suggestion, one thing led to another and I found the site below which discusses techniques I have never hear of, but could this be a patinated alloy? The interior looks to be the same colour ( I found a white feather in there which was a bit creepy) as the outside and is unlikely to have actually have been painted because of the narrow neck.
The plant reminds me of the ceramic piece featured recently that the mark translated to fragrant something and it was surmised to be for holding tea or wine.
I had forgotten that, Sharon. Something else to look into, thank you. 😊
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