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- Dear All,
- I would appreciate it if you could help me about the 18.5 cm diameter metal plate I uploaded the pictures of which I think is Japanese. Can anyone read the signature? I would be glad if I could get some information about its age and value as well.
Best regards - Gökhan
I think it’s a very nice bronze it looks like it’s been lacquered on the back ground. It’s Japanese
@gaksoy Are you sure it is mixed metal? It actually reminds me of a pair of vases I owned by the reknown artist, Makuzu Kozan. Looking at the foot rim, I think I see a chip, but perhaps it is a dent. I think the plate is earthenware (pottery) made to look bronze.
Can you post a close up of the foot rim?
@greeno107 Thanks for the comment. I'm pretty sure the dish is metal. Made of either Bronze or copper. Metal Lacquered as @BrianCrowe said. I agree with him. However, I haven't found anyone who can read the signatur yet. Written in Kanji style, according to the Japanese. Not everyone can read. Some say it was written in the form of the Chinese alphabet.
@gaksoy Well, if you're sure it is not earthenware, that's too bad.
It is definately not mixed metal. Perhaps a painted spelter dish from the late Meiji to eary Taisho. Bronze pieces, especially those with mixed metal, are not painted (lacquered)... it would be an intrusion on the beauty of the patina of the actual metal work.
Spelter pieces, on the other hand, can be highly detailed, were cheaply made to supply tourists, and can be painted/lacquered.
Its definitely a very nice bronze, shakudo, silver and copper/alloy charger or plaque, probably Meiji c.1880 or so. What looks like black lacquer is likely a forced black patina that was then coated in Seshime Urushi laquer, a transparent brownish lacquer, giving it a more permanent patina. In my personal opinion I think they were mimicking the early iron work and the patina used and handled iron forms. Unfortunately as the lacquer chips and wears you get a splotchy finish, of course that is to be expected after a hundred years or so. Some major studios and artist known for this are Suzuki Cochiki and Nogawa, many others too but those are some big names.
Not sure the mark, but I'll glance through a couple of databases and get back to you. Pretty sure the left hand character is Masa.
Cheers,
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 i am looking forward to hearing from you.Thank you so much for helping.
This is what I think it should look like if it was shakudo, with the metal work inlaid rather than washed (applied) onto the surface...
I suppose it can be a combination, but despite being very detailed, I just don't see any specific area of inlay...it all looks applied to the surface.
Its a very nicely decorated plate.
I agree with Tim. Are you sure its metal?
Mark
It certainly looks to be inlaid in various places, as well as missing inlay in some ( note the round inlays I circled towards the top). There are also molded piece, with gilding on silver most likely, as well as cut in pieces.
There are many forms of mixed metal work, the metal itself, the alloy is Shakudo, not the technique in this case, it is known for taking a deep blue/black patina. In this case it is probably lacquered over. to preserve the patina, thus looking splotchy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakud%C5%8D
The style of dish/plaque this is, is fairly well known, as is this combination of techniques ( inlay, molding, gilding, lacquering, and so on....), of course used differently depending on the firm and the artists.
I am sleepy and don't have a ton of brain power at the moment to go hunting, and this site just has a bunch of flawless examples, Steve Sly is a great dealer, here are a few that are of similar techniques...
https://steveslyjapaneseart.com/product/japanese-mixed-metal-vase-by-suzuki-chokichi/
The piece we are discussing is not of the same quality as the ones I am posting, however it is definitely above "common" quality.
Cheers,
Jeremy
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