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I’m stuck on this vase is this revival or later period vase
Brian, can you clarify what you mean by revival? Of what period you think is it possibly revival?
Usually the term is used for late 19th c. pieces rendered in the manner of Kangxi, and sometimes has a Kangxi mark. Kangxi is known for blue & white, and famille verte (wucai, noir, juane)
This vase is famille rose, so not Kangxi in style.
My guess...it's Republic period...early 20th c., especially with those handles.
Would agree with Mark (as usual): nicely done but recent. The decoration is not Republic in my opinion but rather a fanciful modern style. Finding old vases in lamps is quite popular by now and no longer an insider tip, so a lot of lamps are dismantled that were never meant to be anything else but lamps.
Birgit
The melon and the curley vines, with a mostly undecorated white porcelain vase is attributed to Hongxian period style. Perhaps this is slightly later, but these are not the type of things being widely copied to my knowledge.
Here's an example posted to Pinterest.
The so-called hongxian period only lasted for 83 days. It's highly probable that no such wares were ever produced. Consequently there are no records stating said works were ever produced. Even Simon Kwan (the Republic period porcelain guru) is highly dismissive of said production in his book. Although he keeps an open mind.
So hongxian marked porcelain started to appear sometime in the 1920's or there abouts. I believe these were being made by employees of the destroyed kiln. These works did not look like the one posted either by greeno107 or Brian.
The style of the vase posted by Brian does not fit with anything from the Republic period in my opinion. Even the handles are poorly done. No obvious soft flaws are present in the example. The base looks very sugary-white.
The one posted by greeno107 looks like 50's production. It was sold on eBay.
Both these examples are poorly depicted. Something that simply would not have happened if genuine hongxian kiln or for that matter the jurantang.
Shortly after the demise of the hongxian emperor the kilns were destroyed. Then miraculously these finds started to appear in the 20's.
There was a revival of sorts in the 1980'S with so-called hongxian porcelain. I believe the one posted by Brian is a crude attempt and made at that time. With a more modern touch I might add.
Of course this is all subjective with hongxian porcelain. Some scholars believe some were produced. The debate continues.
Mark
@imperialfinegems I remember a similar stirring when my lotus bowl contained a 1915 date in the script. Exciting for a hot minute, but as I never intend to sell it, all academic. It was one of the very first items I posted. I purchased it in Asia. George found the 1915 date, Julia told me about Hongxian and you told me about the debate. I enjoyed reading about Hongxian period on Wlkipedia. The Houston porcelain expert, who is a regular guest appraiser on Antiques Roadshow, had looked at my little bowl, but since he told me that he is not a Chinese expert, he said he could only tell me it was about a 100 years old, had been made for the domestic Chinese market and was worth about a hundred dollars. I remember some thought that was too generous an evaluation. It was an exciting short moment to even have had the possibility of having found an interesting item due to the date. I do so love learning. Sharon
As I believe this vase is a anomaly just not sold on modern just yet but I getting there. Few things still need answered I have not seen any modern pieces with enamel painted like this doesn’t mean it hasn’t just haven’t seen it most modern doesn’t have mineral imperfections that I have seen and the wear on the gilding also has me question things the shading of the flowers and leaves suggest earlier date. Now what makes me agree with mark. The base is a little sugary do feel the handles are not in par with the overall quality of the vase and the overall design is very confusing this is just my opinion but I’m no expert.
I agree that your vase is modern. It is not a question of foot rim, shading or anything else like that. The border decorations are just completely unknown for anything made prior to 1950.
I agree with Mark. This "Hongxian" vase is late-20th century at best. It is done incorrectly on all points. Wrong enamels, wrong shape, birds done in a modern style etc...
@springmeier Let me be clear....I did not say, nor do I think Brian's vase is Hongxian. The example I posted is also not Hongxian, if there is actually genuine Hongxian to be found, I do not know.
If you and others are trying to tell me these pieces are not Hongxian, you are preaching to the choire. Hopefully we are on the same page on this point.
What I said was that the melon and vining is a style " is attributed to Hongxian period style. Perhaps this is slightly later...."
I'm not the one who started making the melon & vines a 'hongxian' thing, but obviously someone has because it's widely represented as such.
I'm using the attribution purely to establish a timeline of creation...which is the only matter we disagree.
I do believe the vase dates prior to 1950, but perhaps not much. Let me dig around and see if I can find a more exact example.
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