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Hi All,
My first impression of this vase was that probably modern, and possibly Japanese, as I have never seen this type of decoration before on Chinese porcelain. But various features make me think in is Chinese, and possibly Kangxi, or at least Kangxi revival. It is definitely hand-thrown.
Specifically, it has that ring around the neck, which is a typical Kangxi feature, and the foot rim looks pretty good for Kangxi. The porcelain is incredibly dense and white and glassy, and smooth to the touch, like you might expect for Kangxi porcelain. Is this a known design for Kangxi porcelain, with prunus blossoms on one side, and a different flower on the other side?
Not sure what those little features are at the top of the neck--maybe dragons?
There are a few oddities. The two circles on the bottom appear to be black, but they were blue when applied--they turned black where they penetrated the glaze. You can see the same effect in places on the neck ring, where the cobalt decoration penetrates the glaze. Is this a feature of Kangxi B&W--some sort of heaping and piling effect?
Also, there is a straight edge that intersects the blue decoration; it is very clear in some places. It is tempting to attribute this to a slight offset in a transfer pattern, but it is not! The line extends all the way around the neck of the vase, right at the change in slope between the body and the neck. It crosses the white areas too (see the last photo). It slightly affects the cobalt decoration, but does NOT actually penetrate the clear glaze anywhere along its path, indicating that it is actually a drying or firing crack.
The dense, white, slick porcelain suggests to me that this might be a Kangxi vase, but the design is not familiar to me, and I could not find any comps. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Charles
I agree it's Japanese. The painting is different from the Chinese prunus pattern. The line seems to be a luting line. They couldn't make the vase in one piece, the neck is too narrow.
Birgit
@kifby13
Hi Charles -
The glaze to the base seems to lack the know, typical Kangxi characteristics, and it also appears very ‘white’, although this may be the lighting and/or image quality? …
Also, the footrim exhibits very little/no signs of ware, and again appears very ‘white’ …
This type of reserved white upon blue painting style originated in the Yuan dynasty, and continued to be used throughout the Ming and Qing dynasties …
A question; is there also any indication of a ridge around the body? You may need to gently feel/run your hands over this area to determine …
The overall painting style, especially the clouds underneath the mouthrim, and shape possible indicate this is Japanese rather than Chinese, perhaps mid to late 20th century? But just my opinion, I could very well be wrong …
It’s a very striking piece …
Stuart
Hi, All.
Thanks for the input. Stuart, three are very faint ridges on the body, showing that it was hand-thrown. But other than the faint line where the slope changes and the neck is attached (I think Birgit is right and it is essentially a luting line), there are no obvious ridges on the body.
I think you are all correct that it is not old. But it still looks Chinese to me--my hunch is it is a modern vase. I think I will ask Peter for his opinion...
Charles
Hi Charles -
Thank you for your reply …
When you say ‘there are very faint ridges on the body’, is this just a single ridge which surrounds the whole body in a single, continuous line, several such continuous lines, different ridges in different areas on the body, or just random, none continuous ridges/bumps to the bodies surface? …
From the late Kangxi period onwards, the bodies of such ‘closed shaped’ vessels of this type were very well trimmed/finished. No indications could be seen/felt regarding to the construction methods used …
My knowledge of Japanese pieces is very limited! If Todd @watership sees this post, he may comment on the Japanese method of constructing such vessels …
Stuart
Hi Stuart,
If you look at the 7th photograph, at the body of the vase, you can see faint circumferential grooves, that indicate to me that it was thrown by hand. They are very faint; not sure what this tells us about the origin (Japanese or Chinese), except maybe the vase isn't Kangxi!
Charles
Hi Charles -
Thank you for clarifying …
Having enlarge the images these appear, perhaps, to be faint exterior lines coming through from the interior body, probably formed when the clay was ‘pulled up’ by hand …
Interesting that these were not smoothed out during the finishing process …
Intriguing piece ...
Stuart
Hi All,
Well Peter got back to me. He says it is a Kangxi vase. This is a known pattern, more commonly used on larger jars, but sometimes on smaller vases like this one. This shape was more popular in the late Ming to Transitional period, but was also used in the Kangxi. He does NOT think it is a Kangxi revival piece.
The high quality white porcelain and the precisely trimmed foot are typical of the Kangxi porcelain, as are the little black areas on the ring on the neck. His reply was relatively short, but that was the gist of it!
I am delighted. It has been getting harder and harder to find interesting Chinese porcelain at local shops or even on travel--this makes me want to keep looking!
Charles
I am so pleased for you! It is a lovely vase. It is amazing what is still "out there."
If its a genuine Kangxi vase its a fantastic buy.
Sometimes these are overlooked in the market as copies.
Mark
@kirby13 Congrats! And the search must always go on!
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