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Hello my friends, finally after a great period of learning about chinese art, I can say that my journey of finding and collecting great pieces just began, I have found some items that I'm quite confident in and some that I don't, so your help is very important for me, all the pieces that I will show you still in the hands of their respected owners, and I have a reservation time to make my decision:
1- Qialong bowl:
2 - Kangxi vase:
3 - garlic form vase + I don't know if it's chinese or not:(no footrim image)
4 - famille rose big vase:
5 - tongzhi mark on unusual vaseused as a lamp, the base doesn't seems old and I don't know if it is iron red or modern painting:
6 - little cup:
7 - and finally this Celadon big chargers:
I know it's a long post, but I thought it would be better to do it this way than separating them into small posts.
I know you guys:
@julia @tam18 @johnshoe
@imperialfinegems @xin_fawis
@shinigami @brettm @plcombs
@watership @short-dong
@sharonp @nicdan @ronm
@ming1449 @gfhandel
@clayandbrush @john-steward
might be busy, but I think it will be so enlightening to hear your opinion about this subject.
Hi Ibrahim,
1. The Qianlong ribbed bowl is in my opinion a modern copy. The facial images and hair styles are interesting. This style first appeared in the late Qianlong period but was more commonly used during the late 19th century to early 20th century. You will note no natural wear which is unusual but not impossible to find. The shading on the clothing is poorly done.
2. The garlic vase. This one could be 19th century example. But would need to be handled and or better images.
3. The famille rose big vase. This one is on my opinion from the 50's. It's a interpretation of sorts to a earlier republican period vase. You will note the gold leaf is gold paint. Has potential.
4. The Tongzhi marked vase. Iron red chinese vase. This one is modern. The images are poorly depicted and very static. Of note is there are or appears to be no natural flaws from handling etc.
5. The dragon chargers are not my area. But I suspect they are modern interpretation.
Are these all being offered by the same seller or multiple ones?
Just my opinion based on your images. Different people may have differing opinions on the pieces I posted about.
Mark
I like the lamped orange and gold lamp but with the faded red stamp double square mark, it looks Republic, but better wait for confirmation from our Republic collectors, the fritting on the base looks okay to me. I could be off base, but the double square red mark from seventies and later looks different. Compare your mark to the Guangzu period on Gotheborg, looks similar but might be later. Sharon
Guangxu is 1875-1908, compare with the last mark for that period on the Gotheborg list of Chinese marks while waiting for other opinions.
Bowl no.1 is 1980s or later. Vase no.4 seems to be from the 1920s and is quite nice, especially if undamaged. More detailed pictures of the ladies would be helpful.
Birgit
Vases no.2 and 3 and the celadon plates could be modern. Vase no.5 probably second half of the 20th century. Teacup no. 6 could be late 19th century. But that’s just a quick guess.
Birgit
I think the only ones of interest may be 4 and 6. I took into account Mark's comments about the vase as I think the calligraphy is a little large or unsubtle, but the rest looks fine for around 1920s, maybe? I tried to find the mark on the cup but couldn't but I would say it has some age.
The garlic vase may be Japanese. As for the rest, definitely don't buy the first one! I think the lamp is hand-painted, but it looks really stiff and quite new. I don't like the look of the dragon plates either, especially as there are two of them.
The Kangxi vase has taken me a bit of time, the base does look old, if the mark was 4 characters I may have thought it might be an old copy, but the colour also seems off and as I searched I found other similar items on eBay, but nothing from what I might consider a reliable source. So I would leave that too.
I made a error in my earlier post about the vase #4. Should have written 50's and not 70's. So I have amended said.
It could be from the 1920's as suggested by Birgit and Julia. The faces certainly fit into the earlier period. But there is something about it I can't figure out. It would need to be handled etc. It certainly has potential if it's a earlier example and damage free. The wear on the gilt/paint is certainly consistent with the 1920's. As are the facial features and clothing styling. The stand looks later but that doesn't really mean anything of substance. Just an observation. It could just be later as are most of them etc.
But these were carried through to the early PROC. Although most were of a different design. Especially the banded top and base.
Mark
In my opinion there’s nothing wrong with Vase no.2. I have a vase with the same handles, and the writing on the back is also typical. Most of the authentic Republic vases seem to be made during the 1920s. I think there was a huge demand in the West at that time. It would be interesting to know if there’s a date on it. I don’t see one but I’m still desperately trying to learn to recognize the dates.
Birgit
Hi Birgit,
Your probably right. Might be the flash/pictures. 😁
Mark
thanks guys all of you(@julia @imperialfinegems @shinigami @lotusblack@sharonp ) for your responses, you really helped me a lot,all those pieces are from different sellers in different locations, Mr. Peter has reviewed them and this is what he said:
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I tend to think the person who said $50 may be correct. It may make a bit more, who knows, but I feel the market for such items would be smaller even though the cup may be older than the vase mainly because if you want to buy something to display a vase will appeal to more people.
If I were going to buy one of the items, I would choose the vase, but if you are planning on selling it on, then it depends on the price they are asking as you will have to take into account postage to get it to you and then any marketplace fees you may have to pay.
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