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Did I screw up in this?
I saw these footed bowls with white matte glaze and rice size fret marks.
At the time, I thought little of the bowls, but I now see narcissus bowls were quite popular in the Song Dynasty.
What do you all think?
Tim,
Can we see the face, or the inside of the narcissus pot? Looks 19th century to me, but I love the glaze that still seems to flow outside of the Kiln...
Jeremy
I think it’s got a very soothing glaze makes it seem classy. Did you buy it?
I did not buy them - I’ve had little interest among my clients with white monochrome pieces.
I’m not been successful differentiating Qing copies of Song wares, and the bowls were not cheap, so I passed on them.
If I could get confirmation that they were actually Song, I’d be more than happy to make the 12 hour round trip drive to go buy them.
These are all the pictures I have - sorry.
BTW…
In the photo with the price tag, you can see the glaze is a pale blue gray.
Tell me this isn’t some type of Ru ware … I’m suffering about walking away from these.
Palace museum Song Dynasty lobed bowl
Given their rarity, I would be surprised if they were, especially as these are less common shapes on a less common foot. All I know about these wares, aside from rarity, it that they are beautiful and forgive me saying, the fluting on these seems to lack elegance, especially the bending over of the upper part.
Do Ru pieces have the orange peel effect? I hope someone can help put your mind at rest, but my feeling is you were probably right in your first instinct. From the photos they look late qing to me.
Hi Greeno -
Concur with Julia, from the images the shape, overall proportions and glaze characteristics seem to lack the aesthetic elegance seen on Song wares. The fluting/roundness to the sides and mouthrim edges is much to sharp and pronounced, somewhat lacking the elegance seen on Song examples …
This form seems to be based upon/coping know Song narcissus basins, but these always have a plain mouthrim edge, never ‘scolloped’ as with this example …
Copies of Song shapes/glazes were subsequently produced during the Yuan, Ming and especially Qing dynasties, but these all exhibit differing characteristics to Song originals …
Personally, I think you did the right thing by leaving alone …
Stuart
Thank you, all!
I feel a little less panicked, and in hindsight, I think the glaze does not have the smoothness of Song pieces. Coulple that with the exposed feet and the everted lobed rim, I think I spared myself dissapointment.
But, I have yet to find a match for these bowls, so if anyone comes across another, please post.
I did find this Yongzheng M&P bowl that shares some features, but still clearly some differences.
http://elogedelart.canalblog.com/archives/2011/04/12/20881166.html
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