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Topic starter 14/02/2019 11:20 am  

I just won this in the auction. Was it a good purchase - $40

 

I was bidding blind and only went by the picture, 

 

CHINESE EMBROIDERED SILK PICTURE


   
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Topic starter 14/02/2019 2:51 pm  

I guess it is not Sotheby's quality. The border also hints at a mid 20th century mass production. However it is well framed so might be older again 1930's.

I have mixed feelings but with the frame i am more than happy with it. The picture doesn't really show the quality as there is a reflection on the glass.

 

Also it is quite big. That must be at least 35+ inches. Almost as big as a modern widescreen TV. 


   
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Topic starter 14/02/2019 3:17 pm  

Anyone an idea's about it?  It appears to be in need of an Iron and a re frame. It has those borders which place in the vintage catagory, the picture may be hiding some of the colour, otherwise it has a dull background, but i am hoping in the proper light it brings out a better contrast and flow with the background and displays better.

I did not see it in the brochure so had 45 seconds to decide what it was and make the higher bid. So please take that into consideration if you think this is a big Nellie. I am still happy with it being in a decent frame albeit in a wobbly state, if i iron it out and re frame it might make for a very fancy wall hanging even if it was 40 euro. 

 

 


   
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14/02/2019 3:40 pm  

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It is better than most similar mass produced items that usually have flowers as the subject.  I think you did alright with the $40 price you paid as the border appears mass produced, however the brightly colored dragon theme ups the quality of the piece to much better than average and the size is larger than most I have seen.  Given the dragon theme it could very well be mid 20th or older, but consider taking it out of the mounting to see if there are any other clues.  I personally would want to re-frame it more to an Asian style frame if I was going to display it.

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Topic starter 14/02/2019 4:05 pm  
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It is better than most similar mass produced items that usually have flowers as the subject.  I think you did alright with the $40 price you paid as the border appears mass produced, however the brightly colored dragon theme ups the quality of the piece to much better than average and the size is larger than most I have seen.  Given the dragon theme it could very well be mid 20th or older, but consider taking it out of the mounting to see if there are any other clues.  I personally would want to re-frame it more to an Asian style frame if I was going to display it.

George

Hi George.

Yes, I agree completely, between the frame and the wobbly fit, it seems out of place.  The frame does not suite the colour scheme, as the central piece is light orange which is not a good contrast with the yellow golden frame. A darker oriental carved Frame would be better. 

Well, I will remove it form the frame and see if i can learn more about it. Thanks for the input, i was browsing other silk's and discovered some amazing 18th century Chinese silk, they have made some master pieces in their time. 

This is breathtaking. I cannot get a better image uploaded, but some of the silks on Sotheby's are amazing and not that expensive.

 


   
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14/02/2019 8:38 pm  

The pink and orange colours mean it's after about 1880s when Perkin's dyes were introduced into chinese silk manufacture. Items made before that could be (very carefully) washed to remove staining , but these newer dyes run and I have ruined a couple of things in washing. Washing is not recommended for anything valuable though! Here the background silk is quite badly faded and/or marked, but there is little to be done about it. 

I agree it could be 1930s ish , and seems like a typical tourist piece - the central dragon is ok, but the others have a comical appearance ; the photo is not good enough to tell, but the quality of the stitching looks ok, not coarse, and mainly intact. 

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The pink and orange colours mean it's after about 1880s when Perkin's dyes were introduced into chinese silk manufacture. Items made before that could be (very carefully) washed to remove staining , but these newer dyes run and I have ruined a couple of things in washing. Washing is not recommended for anything valuable though! Here the background silk is quite badly faded and/or marked, but there is little to be done about it. 

I agree it could be 1930s ish , and seems like a typical tourist piece - the central dragon is ok, but the others have a comical appearance ; the photo is not good enough to tell, but the quality of the stitching looks ok, not coarse, and mainly intact. 

Hi Tam,

 

Thanks for the assessment, That helps to have a foundation date to work from.

1880 + -----  - 1971

I was also thinking along the lines of a tourist piece, possibly an impromptu tourist piece from 1950's but happens to be older 1930-1940; Then someone thought to frame it. 🙂 These are my wild guesses. 

It appears too old to be from the world of the internet so has to be tourist or something else. 

I cannot wait to unravel the mystery and unframe, it. I hopefully can get it tonight but maybe Monday before i can collect it.  


   
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Topic starter 18/02/2019 8:36 pm  

It was framed at the Neptune Gallery Dublin. From detective work, based on the Telephone number which has an old pre fix that was changed in 1989, and since the gallery only opened in 1963, it was framed between 1963 and 1989.

 

However the label on the back is certainly not a 1980's label. It has to be 1970's or 1960's. The question is of course was it just framed there or did they supply the silk, if they supplied the silk then it was bought straight from china in the 1970's.

However i suspect they simply framed it. So it was more likely sourced at an auction or a shop in an old frame. That puts it to the 1960's for me, as i have seen these framed silks which seem to be common in the late 1960's. 

So I can get as far as the late 1960's but no further. I can open up the frame but it is well framed and set at the back so would have to rip open the layers of brown paper and this may not result in any additional information. 

I will call it a people republic of China Silk. It does not have any exceptional elements of quality and there is still a chance it may be pre 1949 but that is unlikely. 

 


   
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