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Topic starter 06/04/2022 4:31 pm  

Hello everybody, 

I recently won this Guanyin figure at my local auction house, but I'm unsure about the age of the piece. Is it a 19th century piece, is it modern or even older ? According to the catalogue it should be boxwood. Because I'm new to wooden pieces, maybe someone has some experience with these wooden things. I'm grateful for all of your input.

Thank you in advance.

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06/04/2022 5:12 pm  

Not a expert bit it looks like boxwood and early 20th century. Could be older. 

Nice example. 

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06/04/2022 5:38 pm  

The robes are well carved and drape beautifully, a serene expression and I think those are usual attributes for quality. I believe it is also mentioned how the stance is curved to mimic the curve in carved ivory, also good.


   
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06/04/2022 6:04 pm  

Im interested to know about this piece as well.  I've seen similar objects from time to time.


   
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06/04/2022 8:34 pm  

when i say 20th C., that is not a pejorative. there are good quality characteristics on this carving which transcend or trump age. someone noted the detailed drapery in the robes, but notice the hair, digits, and jewelry. the reason i say 20th C. is because i view the face as being too stylized - ie streamlined and modernist - for earlier periods. I am not dogmatic at all about my opinion - just offering points for consideration.


   
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06/04/2022 8:55 pm  

Here are a few interesting comps. I would also lean towards it being 20th C, but I'm certainly not positive about it. It's very nice. 

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2019/important-chinese-art/a-boxwood-figure-of-guanyin-qing-dynasty-18th-19th

https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2012/fine-chinese-ceramics-and-works-of-art-n08872/lot.92.html

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/china-5000-years/a-finely-carved-boxwood-figure-of-liu-hai-qing


   
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06/04/2022 9:03 pm  

i think that the carving in the original post is definitely nicer than the first sotheby's example, and don't consider the second one a comparable. 


   
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06/04/2022 9:09 pm  

@tonyatl By comp I didn't mean to say they are of the same time and quality, just posting a few examples to compare that have different qualities, some alike and some different, older, newer, darker, lighter, more or less detailed, etc. It's all grist for the mill. I included the third one because I thought the lighter color was interesting with still an earlier dating, so that illustrates color isn't always about darker equals older, which would have been my novice assumption. 


   
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Topic starter 07/04/2022 11:48 am  

Thanks everybody for your comments. I added another picture of the bottom. As you see, there is the rest of an auction label. At least that's what I think it is. So I would say this nice lady is at least a few decades old.

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Topic starter 07/04/2022 11:55 am  

@johnshoe Thank you John for the comps. I also found these. But I also saw that the carvings are different compared to mine and like you said the color of the wood is always different with other pieces that I found online. 

 


   
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Topic starter 07/04/2022 11:58 am  

I just bit on it, because I liked the elegant style and expression of the robe, etc. It has some damage here and there but that doesn't bother me at all. 


   
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07/04/2022 6:51 pm  

@chris71 she’s lovely I think she is ok for 19th century to early 20th but not much later. Here is my 19th century carving maybe some techniques to look at for comparison.

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