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Hi Guys:)
I found these pair of vases, and I think they are okay for Hongxian, but I'm not 100% sure, What do you think?:)
If you check the necks, there is a similar at rob michiels here:
flowers colour:
https://www.catawiki.com/l/9861199-nice-vase-from-china-hongxian-1916
but I'm still not sure, ohh the pictures:
Thank you so much: Teo:)
I am no expert on these wares, but the painting style , and the quality of the glazes look pretty spot on to me. The feet and marks look good too.
I very much like the designs which are quite calming and yet slightly busy in a way... and those flowers are stunning.
I am sure others will know more than I, but thought I'd offer my two cents.
Jeremy
Thank you so much Jeremy for your kindness and help:)
Hi Teo
Genuine Hongxian porcelain is very rare and expensive. Assuming of course that any were actually made.
There has been debate as to whether there was any commissioned due to the fact that he only served less than 90 days as the self-proclaimed emperor.
In my opinion the two vases you posted are not genuine. The quality is lacking. The bat's are terrible. The overall look is stiff. I don't like the way the marks are done.
In my opinion they are a product of the the PROC (1949 -) and not hongxian porcelain and not from the Republican period (1912-1949).
Personally I would not buy them unless they are cheap. They are being mass produced atm. Hongxian porcelain is very popular at the moment.
Mark
@imperialfinegems I was hoping you would see this and reply because I could not exactly remember what you said about Hongxian. I did read about the mark on Gotheborg, where it was stated that it was doubtful that anything so marked predated the nineteen-thirties (and that was stated for the genuine Republic period), who knows if the ones that do not date from Republic have any age at all, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is not true IMO. Sharon
Agree with Mark, don’t buy, they are much later and not great quality. The first Catawiki vase could be from the 1930s when they started to copy the Hongxian mark. Rob Michiels wisely didn’t declare his vase as mark and period. One widespread opinion now is that the few authentic items bear the Jurentang mark and are of truly imperial quality. Everything with a Hongxian mark is fake.
Birgit
Thank you so much Guys:)
this republic period is still hard for me, because there is not much difference between low quality and fake
they were around $140
Mark is right,
Hongxian marked vases of the right period, and not much later like the pair seen here, are of very high quality and the mark is handmade, not printed like it is either on the two vases and on the one by Rob Michiels.
Here are the pictures of a big vase that I had. The picture with the lamp inside the vase is to show the quality of the potting.
The quality of the pictures is not good because they are old pictures.
Giovanni
Thank you Giovanni:)
Yes... I didn't get that "republic period" feeling with the two vases, but now I do with your vase
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