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Dear Charles Bryan and Mark, I got enough nerve up to do the experiment with vinegar to my 1965 Christmas present from my parents and it did not bubble up, the vinegar drops remained on top of surface and with a 30 power loupe the drops remained clear to the surface. The original post was five months ago and the photo had disappeared, so here it is again, it was sold as a jade pendant in 65 and apparently it is jade, since it did not bubble. I used a clean eye dropper to drop the vinegar in two places. Mad Science (American tv show in the eighties). Sharon
Hi Sharon P,
Why are you using vinegar to test jade?
Mark
@imperialfinegems Because if it was according to the thread 5 months ago that if it was marble, as Charles suspected as a possibility, it would bubble if you dropped vinegar on it. Sharon
Hi Sharon P,
I recall vaguely the post/discussion on this pendant.
I can't remember if I replied or not.
It's not marble etc. In my opinion it's probably jade or even jadeite jade. Mottled snow in moss was very popular during the late guangxu period through to the early republic period.
It would need to be handled and examined. Jadeite jade has a rocky/dimpled surface like the moon. If it's not then it's could nephrite jade.
Mark
@imperialfinegems yes, it had the moonscape appearance under the loupe but Charles thought it could be marble and said it would bubble if marble. Okay, so I just tried it on a piece of gray and white Turkish marble and it did bubble under the 30 power loupe but the jade did not bubble, but remained clear to the surface of the jade, no bubbles under the loupe, as in the marble. One thing for sure it is not marble. I'll post the original thread but it will be without the photos. Sharon
Hi Sharon P,
Thank you for reposting the original thread.
Releaved that my thoughts are still the same! 😋
I think it's highly probable to be jadeite jade. Now whether it's been treated or not is another issue we shall try and tackle.
UV is the simplest test. If it lights up then it's been treated. If not it's OK as this is an example from the mid 20th century. The techniques have changed over the last few years. However yours is an older example.
There are obviously a number of other tests you could perform. However the UV one is the easiest one.
Mark
@kirby13 Charles, further observation from the experiment is that you were correct about the drops of vinegar etching the stone on the little shell shaped Turkish marble carved dish, not important and I enjoyed my experiment. Sharon
@imperialfinegems It did not light up neon like a Christmas tree. Sharon
@imperialfinegems Thank you and after further investigation on Google, the eighties TV show was Weird Science, not Mad Science, must have been thinking of Dr. Frankenstein. Just know that theme song is hard to forget, "Weird Science " but I did. Sharon
Thanks for the update, Sharon. Vinegar, or any other weak acid, won't damage silicate minerals like jade, quartz or chalcedony, or even serpentine. But it will digest carbonate minerals, like calcite (marble), dolomite, azurite, malachite, etc., and a few other less common minerals.
So it is a pretty safe test for most minerals that you might want to test.
Charles
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