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I was hoping to find out a bit more about this tea set.
I got it from a woman who said it was purchased at a market near Lahore Pakistan, at least 40 years ago and that the pattern in it is hand hammered. She was not sure if it was new at the time.
Except for a the number "5" stamped on the tea pot lid hinge there are no identifying marks that I can find. It is nice and shiny and does not seem to react to silver polish, so I doubt is silver plated. I think the metal is solid throughout i.e. I scratched the inside of the pepper shaker and it did not appear to be any copper or brass beneath the surface. I am thinking perhaps it is "German Silver" (i.e. no silver content at all). It has a reasonable weight to it and does not feel "cheap".
I think it is quite beautiful and believe if it is of any value that is probably more in the handy work rather than the metal. I only found a photo of another fairly similar tea set on a Pakistani auction site, but unfortunately only the photo was available as the auction was over.
If anyone has any more information or comments I would like to hear them. Is it of any value? And if permissible to state (or private message me) what value should I put on it if i want to sell it.
Thanks in advance!
Hi Andy,
From your images your tea set appears to be silver plated. Probably vintage and the former owner purchased as new.
Mark
Hi,
I would guess it is likely silver plated alloy, the attached fixtures (feet, handles, finials, etc) appear to be cast and soldered on, The chasing and forming is rather crude (Not intending to insult your pieces, just in execution) in my opinion, so I would place it in the vintage think 50 years ago max. You can see comparable pieces of Indian silver for export which are much finer in execution, and I would group Pakistan in regionally as their silver craft has similar design elements and construction. I do find your set quite lovely from a decorative standpoint, and I certainly think it has a decent retail just for display purposes.
for comparison here is a site with exceptional pieces of Indian silver
as well as a tea set I recently sold from Lucknow, (note that the cast pieces and the soldering are enhanced by carving and feathering decorations over top, to cover the fact that it is still fairly crude)
https://www.pushkinantiques.com/sold-indian
I hope this helps,
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 I have an Indonesian tea set that is Banka tin, which has the appearance of silver but the advantage of not tarnishing. They told me it was safe to use, but I never did because of the use of the word tin in the name. It is decorative on a sideboard, but before using any alloy material with hot liquids, I would check it out first. Watched a movie with Mark Ruffalo about Teflon recently, oh my goodness, my generation is lucky to have a brain cell between us. Sharon
I mostly sell early English and Colonial American silver, though I collect Old Sheffield Plate and Close Plate, the amount of questionable materials and metals in the things I have consumed hot beverages out of is terrifying. I don't think I have ever used tin, however I am sure it can be dangerous, more frightening to me is the use of lead solder in the attachment of spouts and filling seams.
I do however like to use most things in my possession at least once, so I am likely not a good person to look to for suggestions... haha.
-Jeremy
I have heard this method working well with flatware and thicker objects, and some hollow wares, however just as a slight warning many "Asian" silver pieces are an alloy, with lower amounts of silver and uncertain standards, that will ring like silver or close to it when knocked. Another option is seeing how malleable the piece is, for the most part, silver and silver alloys have some give when flexed and most plated items do not. I do however find many exceptions, such as recently a piece of unmarked french plate on a silver alloy that dates to the early 19th century, that has the luster, warmth, flexibility and ring of silver. It really is a puzzling piece as the workmanship that went into it is probably 100 times the work of a sterling piece from the same era, it is just that man hours were not nearly equivalent to the precious metal value at the time.
Sorry I took this thread on a strange and rambling tangent.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Thank you Jeremy for your post. Very interesting and informative. 🙏
Mark
Thank you all for your informative replies.
I have a bit more information as I posted to another forum too, which led me to looking at this from a different point of view. It was suggested that the salt and pepper shakers probably did not belong to the set and as it was one of the shakers that I scratched to test for plating or not, I took a closer look at the other pieces with a magnifying glass ( I was also looking for marks I may have missed in English or otherwise). On closer inspection of the tray (magnified) I noticed some small scratches and what looks probably like brass beneath. I scratched the inside of the creamer jug in an inconspicuous place and it appears there is brass below the surface too - so I am going to agree that it is plated - probably brass. Silver plate, or otherwise, I am not sure. Unfortunately, though I went over all the pieces several times I still could not find any marker's marks in English or any other language.
Given that it is probably a decorative piece(s) of plated brass about 50 years old, a bit crudely cast, with some reasonably done handy work any ideas on value for retail? ( please post if allowed, or message me if not)
Thanks - the research journey is sometimes the most fun part about acquiring a piece(s) like this - you always learn something along the way!
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