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HI, I came across this lot. Could someone help identify? Based on what I've learned here I would guess these are all modern. thanks.
Ron
The first, looks like a nice plate and does it come with the wooden stand, I guess Chinese possibly republic.
Second pic looks like a Japanese satsuma vase, but it is not and appears to be a Modern chinese copy ( royal satsuma).
The third IDK if its genuine. Chinese ( considering the type of items in this job lot then i assume this is a very neat and quite fancy modern jar)
The third is the classic Chinese warriors Crackle Vase, very common and range in quality and age significantly. You can get this for a few pounds and sometimes quite a bit higher, never much more than $50 on ebay, and it is always so hard to get the mark right for me. They can be 19th century to 1940+
The fourth is the same design as the warrior vase, just as a crackle bowl. Looks fine.
The 5th is it japanese, or chinese republican or something else IDK ( worth a proper opinion from one of the more expert )
The 6th ? Could it be a late 20th Japanese.
The first, looks like a nice plate and does it come with the wooden stand, I guess Chinese possibly republic.
Second pic looks like a Japanese satsuma vase, but it is not and appears to be a Modern chinese copy ( royal satsuma).
The third IDK if its genuine. Chinese ( considering the type of items in this job lot then i assume this is a very neat and quite fancy modern jar)
The third is the classic Chinese warriors Crackle Vase, very common and range in quality and age significantly. You can get this for a few pounds and sometimes quite a bit higher, never much more than $50 on ebay, and it is always so hard to get the mark right for me. They can be 19th century to 1940+
The fourth is the same design as the warrior vase, just as a crackle bowl. Looks fine.
The 5th is it japanese, or chinese republican or something else IDK ( worth a proper opinion from one of the more expert )
The 6th ? Could it be a late 20th Japanese.
Thanks for your feedback.
1. The red plate item I believe comes with the stand and they are only asking for SGD$24. I might just get it.
2. Japanese Satsuma: Price is too high for a Chinese replica. Asking SGD$120. I'll pass
3. The blue & white hexagon jar looks to be a modern copy. They're asking SGD$48
4. The warrior vase is intriguing, but like you said there's a lot of these in the market and asking is SGD$100.
5. The Warrior bowl is also SGD$100.
6. The asking price for the first of the blue & white plate is SGD$160.
7. The Asking price for the second blue & white floral plate with gilt trim is SGD$75.
The red plate is attractive, although I suspect it may be printed. Still, if the stand comes with it and shipping costs aren't high, that seems a decent price if you can get it for that.
The 5th piece,Blue and white with Shou character to centre and simplified deep Shou border is Chinese and looks to be circa 1820's and found on Diana shipwreck cargo.
Personally I wouldn't buy any of them.
Vic
The red plate is attractive, although I suspect it may be printed. Still, if the stand comes with it and shipping costs aren't high, that seems a decent price if you can get it for that.
Hi Julia,
I’ll ask if the stand comes with it. I made a mistake, the price is SGD$48. The plate is here in Singapore.
Ron
Hi Vic,
Thanks for your input. I agree especially at their asking price.
Ron
Hi Ron,
the only item probably worth buying is the Shou character plate. These are not rare but old (first half of the 19th century) and decorative and usually offered for a few hundred $. I own one from the Desaru shipwreck from the 1840s and paid GBP 170 for it but it's larger than usual and in perfect condition. SGD 160 is US$118, that's a good price, especially if you could haggle them down further.
Let me suggest that instead of buying random items you might read a book or two about Chinese porcelain. This will help you to judge if something is worth buying. I could recommend this one for 1800-today:
Birgit
Hi Ron,
I don't think I would pay that for the plate, fine at $24 (with the stand) as it is decorative, but I am pretty sure it is a fairly modern printed item and if you really want something like that you may be able to pick one up far cheaper.
Julia
Hi Ron -
The four character mark on the warrior vase reads 'Chenghua Nian Zhi', which is often seen on these type of wares.
Short Dong, Julia, Vic and Birgit have all given you some great advice - especially in regard to books, which are essential to help you learn!!
Stuart
Hi Ron,
the only item probably worth buying is the Shou character plate. These are not rare but old (first half of the 19th century) and decorative and usually offered for a few hundred $. I own one from the Desaru shipwreck from the 1840s and paid GBP 170 for it but it's larger than usual and in perfect condition. SGD 160 is US$118, that's a good price, especially if you could haggle them down further.
Let me suggest that instead of buying random items you might read a book or two about Chinese porcelain. This will help you to judge if something is worth buying. I could recommend this one for 1800-today:
Thanks I'll check it out.
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