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Good afternoon, I bought these two sets of bowls at an estate sale. I am not sure what these are called, but they are hand painted. One set have markings on the bottom and the other does not. I am hoping you will be able to tell me what the markings translate to and the age of these pieces. Please help me because I am clueless. I know these might just be decorative collective pieces because of the hand painting on the inside. Thank you so much in advance for all your responses and enjoy your day
This topic was modified 4 years ago by carol johnson
The first 3 Bowls have the Kutani mark, but do not really have much in the way of style with Kutani and seem to have a hybrid of satsuma and Kutani. The mark is a generic Kutani mark, and really these are not Kutani and some might say the mark is not quite a real backmark but it always helps to have a backmark, and htis functions to help indicate to me that this is mid to late 20th century.
They are pretty bowls simply painted and the backmark ink is post 1950, perhaps they are vintage tourist items.
Second lot
The 3 bowls with I assume are Cranes are possibly a little more modern and better quality but more or less the same fare. 1970+
P.S. The reason I ask is because I had two small bowls evaluated and one stated: "Mid 20th C. Seto Ware shaped dish with bamboo decorations, seal marked base. Based on the images provided, it was fairly new when you bought it (my note, purchased 1975, St. Louis at an 'Antique Shop'). During the 1930's roughly Japanese potters began using Chinese style square seal marks on a small scale, by the 1960's and 1970's their use became fairly commonplace for higher-end ceramic shops and Kilns in the Seto region.
I suspect the mark had some folks perplexed as it bears a striking resemblance to Chinese red seals of the mid 20th C. also (my note, I had posted to the Forum with no takers). Another indication of it's being Japanese beyond its shape and use of two colors covering half or around half of the piece is the finely finished foot rim and totally pure unglazed paste foot. (my note, your unmarked base rims look pure too).
Age 1960's to 1970's
Value $15 to $25
Best regards, Peter Combs"
This was the result I was expecting, but it was worth it to just find out. The second one unmarked shell form was only worth $10-$15 but I found out "Japanese by its glaze, style gilt rim and appearance of the foot rim. These were and are typically made in sets for sauces and as bone dishes for the dining table ... Best Regards, Peter Combs" I still love these little bowls. Sharon
Just to make things a bit clearer. these were purchased from the same person @sharonp I spoke about in another post with the wooden wall plates. As the story goes, her parent bought these while they were in japan because her father was stationed there in the 50's when she was a small child and they brought these and other pieces from japan back home to the U.S. this lady was in her late 70's when I bought these and the plates. Maybe that might help? Thank you all again for responding to my post. I sincerely appreciate it
@ezeeepass Yes, it is only the whiteness of the base rim and the color on the outside of your Crane bowls that looked some what similar to me. My shell bowl is 4" in diameter and the mod bamboo is 4.5" diameter. The kilns in Seto have been producing for a long time (per the evaluation), so yes, her family could have purchased in the fifties or they could have purchased old stock. I hope someone can pin them to a specific area for you. Best, Sharon
Try looking at this as your first 3 bowls are similar to Kutani-Yaki and the second ones are similar to Kutani Kakuzo zodiac bowls. I do not know immediately what they are specifically.
P.S. The reason I ask is because I had two small bowls evaluated and one stated: "Mid 20th C. Seto Ware shaped dish with bamboo decorations, seal marked base. Based on the images provided, it was fairly new when you bought it (my note, purchased 1975, St. Louis at an 'Antique Shop'). During the 1930's roughly Japanese potters began using Chinese style square seal marks on a small scale, by the 1960's and 1970's their use became fairly commonplace for higher-end ceramic shops and Kilns in the Seto region.
I suspect the mark had some folks perplexed as it bears a striking resemblance to Chinese red seals of the mid 20th C. also (my note, I had posted to the Forum with no takers). Another indication of it's being Japanese beyond its shape and use of two colors covering half or around half of the piece is the finely finished foot rim and totally pure unglazed paste foot. (my note, your unmarked base rims look pure too).
Age 1960's to 1970's
Value $15 to $25
Best regards, Peter Combs"
This was the result I was expecting, but it was worth it to just find out. The second one unmarked shell form was only worth $10-$15 but I found out "Japanese by its glaze, style gilt rim and appearance of the foot rim. These were and are typically made in sets for sauces and as bone dishes for the dining table ... Best Regards, Peter Combs" I still love these little bowls. Sharon
I will keep an eye out for these when i am referencing Japanese sites. They look lovely, the bamboo is really cool.
@sharonp I found some more information, and i think your item is of slightly higher value and overlapping into art so i am not sure if this is obfuscating ( Eiwa Kinsei) or enlightning.
Sachi Kinsei - 佐地謹製 (Carefully made by Sachi ) Showa period to modern era
This pretty china is actually Japanese (rather than Chinese) with a beautiful "fancy Imari" floral design that's largely a printed pattern, though some of the colors and the gold may have been added by hand in a process known as 'heightening'.
It comes from the Seto (Arita) area of Japan and, according to the mark, dates to the third quarter of the 20th century. The mark on the bottom is a four character mark inzhuanshuseal script reads:
佐地謹製
Sachi Kinseior "Sachi, humbly made by"
Sachi did not trade under this name for very long, so is a minor producer in the Japanese export market and therefore with almost zero name recognition here in the West so prices are going to reflect its decorative appeal rather than its antique or vintage value. Also, sadly, fine dining china continues to decline in value due to the fact that no-one seems to entertain with formal dinner parties any more and this set would sell as decorative cabinet china only, though worthily so, as it would certainly make for a very elegant display.
Eiwa Kinsei appears to be mostly an export ware dating from the 1950s and later. The oldest marks are black and gold marks found on lithophane Geisha wares. Blue and red seal marks occurs later.
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