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Topic starter 29/09/2020 5:05 am  

Good morning, what do you think about item attached? Height including cover - about 40 cm. Many thanks in advance! Lysander

 


   
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29/09/2020 5:23 am  

Hi Lysander, 

Some nice quality pictures you have posted. 

If you are looking to buy this I would not recommend it to you. I feel based on what I can see that it's a modern copy. Just how modern I can't say. 

The details are a bit stiff to my eye. The lid looks terrible almost like a afterthought along with the border rim around the lip/opening.

Just my thoughts my friend. Best to wait for others to chim on with their thoughts etc. 

Mark 


   
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29/09/2020 10:06 am  

That foot looks new to me, but being new to things, I could be wrong. Will be good to see what others say.


   
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29/09/2020 3:43 pm  

@lysander 

Hi Lysander -

Concur with Mark’s@imperialfinegems comments, this looks fairly modern - IMO ...

I would only add that the overall design is not that well executed, the enamel tones seem wrong and the glaze appears rather ‘white’ - although the last two may be image related? ... 

But not really my area so, as with Mark again, lets see what others have to say ...

Stuart 

 

 


   
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Topic starter 03/10/2020 8:56 am  

Dear All,

thank you for answers. Apologise for long silence, had lot of work.

I have to disagree. IMHO the vase is made after Yongzheng originals in Gaungxu period, late 19th century. Not because I'm so smart, but consulted this item with Chinese collectors. I also found similar example (but pair and in perfect condition) sold in Christies in 2019. The manner of painting details on pair is very similar. I've cleaned the base, maybe that's why it look very new. Below pictures made before cleaning.

Best regards,

Lysander

 

 

 


   
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03/10/2020 10:24 am  

@lysander  The pictures are playing tricks with my eyes because in some the foot looks almost square and thin and then in others it looks wide and round. Seeing the foot a bit more dirty definitely gives me a different perspective. That is surely an indication that my education needs to increase, as I want to be able to make accurate assessments without relying on the presence of old dirt, which of course could be faked. I am finding the late 19th early 20th century time period to be very interesting and diverse. It seemed to have produced such a wide variety of quality, some very crude and some very fine. And just about any style it seems could come from that time. It seems to cause a lot of confusion and disagreement among collectors. It would be interesting to see a couple pictures taken of this piece outdoors in natural light, because I wonder if the studio lighting that was used washed out some aspects that would indicate more age ? At any rate, whenever it was made it is a pretty work of art.


   
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