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@lotusblack I don’t have experience with Vietnamese market items, so this is a sincere question - Have you seen Kangxi marks on Vietnamese market items?
My understanding was the revival marks were intended to garner higher sale prices from the European market who were eager for anything Kangxi.
So, am I to understand that an artist in the late 19th c. rendered a design that combines qualities of domestic Guangxu design with Vietnamese design with a mark intended for the European market?
Variation of the artistic hand is completely understandable, but is that all that is going on here?
Point taken that fakes are earning as much as genuine pieces, but that’s neither a good thing for collectors, nor reason to give an otherwise sloppy example a pass on identification.
It is, as you say, the reality. But, the reality is that we are suppose to be trying to help each other improve our identification skills… not just surrender to public opinion.
@greeno107 I have seen Kangxi marks on Vietnamese exports. No I not saying let trade off antiques for fakes my opinion is that fakers are not master faking items that aren’t worth much to sell to antique collectors it’s more dealers selling fake antiques to the general public. Like the loot line that takes many extra steps to add this feature time is money in China there is no incentive to go through extra steps when they can simply pop out a molded vase and sell in a decor shop. The dragon is in line with 19th century yes the dots and scales are different but not so different from Korean and Vietnamese.
@lotusblack Interesting. That piece raises a question:
Other than the metal rim, what makes that piece Bleu de Hue?
It looks every much what domestic Chinese ‘Kangxi style’ wares looked like in the late 19th c… just someone added the metal rim.
Since I have just one Japanese made Bleu de Hue plate, help me understand.
Is there not a very distinct color and line work associated with Bleu de Hue?
Gotheborg.com states these pieces were of high quality. Auction results also reflect sales well into the thousands (The Sotheby’s vase brought 2,000 GBP).
Reviewing examples in museums and auctions, the line work is always very strong… nice rich colors?
Additionally, I’m not sure a loot line is something that a fairly ordinary (modern) copy wouldn’t have. I see them on all of the modern pieces that my friend sells in Atlanta… he’s not selling masterpieces… just modern ordinary blue & white wares.
What about modern pieces coming from Vietnam? Loot lines?
I guess I’m having a hard time believing that we (collectors) should accept the notion that poor quality and mixed rendering styles is acceptable during the 19th c. under the premise that since there were a lot of artists making porcelain, this should be expected.
There were likely thousands of artists making Famille rose, too, and some pieces were poorly rendered, but they still stayed true to the general style.
If this is not the case for Bleu de Hue, then I appreciate the education, and I’ll stay clear of ever buying it.
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