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This lobed bowl with incised decoration is on sale - Is there any reasons to suspect it's a fake?
Come on! No one willing to share their opinion on this one? The sale is today: Should I buy it if I can get it for a bargain? Are these also faked to near perfection like Sancai and Jun ware? Song dynasty ceramics are probably the ceramics I'm mostly fascinated by so it would be a neat addition to my collection ...
Hi,
Re it being Ding ware.
I haven't a clue. All I would say is there is something inelegant about the base, and what is that black stuff?
I am not sure where you are looking but if it is closing today, I would expect to see the price rising and others watching it - although many of those may also be unsure.
This isn't an area I would leap into without feeling very sure unless it was literally going for peanuts.
Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Julia
All right! But thank you anyway. The base is basically correct as far as I can tell. You can compare with the base of 'The Clark Ding' which has the same shape at Sotheby's. http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2014/chinese-art-through-eye-of-sakamoto-goro-ding-hk0542.html The black stuff looks like plane dirt on this close-up.
Thanks, will read it tomorrow.
I'm afraid I can't be much help. The first two pictures show slightly different shades of white. That's a challenge.
Without being able to handle it, I'd probably look to the incised decoration for clues. Does it seem stiff? Or flowing and natural? But the lighting isn't good enough for me to see that in much detail.
Sorry that's not much help.
Morning! I have read the article, studied the glorious bowl it relates to and I stand by what I said yesterday. In fact, I am pretty certain the resemblance between the two is so minimal that it is best ignored.
Thanks for the link, it was interesting and an absolute pleasure to look at that piece. I don't get that feeling, looking at the bowl you were interested in.
Good Morning! The bowl sold for more than $5000 so somebody else must have thought it was interesting.
Wow! I did say I know nothing - but I also know I wouldn't have paid that for it. It just didn't do it for me!😆
The Clark Ding is one of the finest and most valuable Ding pieces on private hands I believe, so a comparison between the two bowls is probably a little futile. It was mostly to show a similar shaped bowl with a similar base that I posted the link.
I noticed this six-lobed bowl with carved decoration is on sale at Heritage Auctions with an estimate at $3000 - $5000. That one might be a better comparison, at least in terms of value? https://fineart.ha.com/itm/ceramics-and-porcelain/a-chinese-lobed-ding-ware-bowl-northern-song-dynasty2-1-2-x-7-3-8-inches-64-x-187-cm-/a/8001-78155.s
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