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Hey Folks,
So last week I bought this at a local auction, and just picked it up today. I just really loved it, and thought the quality was pretty good.
I was wondering if there is anyone here who knows about these on the forum?
There are certainly some condition issues, but a friend of mine is a restorer and he is coming tomorrow to look at it.
It is very large at almost 12.5 feet long and 67 inches high.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Jeremy
Jeremy, perhaps someone in our group is a specialist in this area, but if not, allow me just a few comments.
The screen is rendered in traditional Edo period style (Japanese), but the scene is a Chinese depiction. This is not impossible as the Japanese often made literati style paintings in with Chinese themes, but the scene should have some specific cultural history/significance tied to it.
However, while the landscape work looks quite nice, the facial renderings of the people have some questionable mannerisms- they look poorly rendered.
Perhaps this is due to the Japanese artist not being as skilled at painting Chinese people, but I have another concern… the overall small size of this type of screen.
These Edo screens are usually quite large.
I think what you have is likely a 20th c piece, but it could be early 20th c., and I could be completely wrong / this is all just based upon my limited experience with the 8 ir so screens I’ve owned.
Tim out of curiosity what do you mean by they are usually larger? Most of the larger 17th and 18th century Edo screens I have found are in the 60-70" tall to 11-13' wide range. It came with the original receipt from a no longer existing gallery in Tokyo that says it is an Edo period screen in the Chinese style. I agree the facial features are not as well rendered as the other elements, but some similarities to a few 18th century screens I have come across.
I will link a few this evening when I get on my home comp.
Also wanted to add these few pictures of a bit better details.
Jeremy
Looks to be about the right size for a typical Japanese screen that originally belonged to a set of two screens. Can’t comment on the age, but if it has been fabricated in the traditional manner than DO NOT EXPOSE IT TO DIRECT SUNLIGHT!
Here are some photos of people on one of my 18th century Japanese screens of ‘Tartars playing polo’ for style comparison.
@jbeer2121 Sorry Jeremy. I missed that you put the dimensions, and I miss judged on the photo you took in front of your fireplace / it looks so small on my phone LOL.
Disregard my assessment on the size.
Williams screen is rendered as I’d expect.
Any chance the faces were later restorations?
Can you back light it?
The background looks quite nice! I’ve heard these are complicated pieces to make… I doubt it could be reproduced.
Tim no worries. I think the way I shot the picture made scale hard to get right, the thing is just longer than most of the spaces in the house. I will try and set it back up so I can shoot better pictures, lit better too.
I believe William's is earlier and I agree the rendering is great on it.
I think the faces on Japanese screens were painted in varying degrees of quality like anything else, I have noticed this as I go through museum collections, and dealers pages. Especially noticeable in the late 17th through 18th centuries.
The background is really quite spectacular, as I look at it over and over, I keep noticing new details, I cannot quite figure out the order of creation, like which layer went on first and then the next.
This screen has similar quality faces, different as they are in the Japanese style, but the hair and nose shapes are similar.
Jeremy
@jbeer2121 Congratulations, you certainly will not get bored looking at it. I especially like the large boats and the round temple, the row boats too, that one fellow is really putting his back to the job. Blue background color is nice, in fact primary color palette makes it pop and draws the eye to the action. Sharon
@jbeer2121 That was a typo about back lit.
What it was suppose to read was ‘black light’, so you can see the extent of restoration (if any).
Sure thing.
I did check it with my hand held UV 365nm and the only possible restorations are around where the paper hinges overlap under the top paper, and a few spots in the gilding. I will shoot it with my Infrared camera, to double check, however that takes a bit of set up for such a large piece.
I do have a conservator coming hopefully next week, who should be able to tell me what they think.
Jeremy
Thanks Mark,
Definitely bought it to sell, like most things I buy, but now I think it is going to be with me for a while. Cannot stop staring at it.
Jeremy
You might contact the Freer in Washington for information since they have a large collection of Japanese screens. Conservation of these things is very specialized and most of the expertise is in Japan (and very expensive). These screens are made up of various layers of wood, paper and fabric that have differing coefficients of expansion. As temperatures change in my house at night, I can hear slight popping, creaking noises from the screen mounted above my bed. If temperatures get too extreme from direct sunlight, it can cause the paper, painted surface on a panel to split in half.
William,
Thanks for the advice. One of the conservators I am contacting was the head of East Asian Painting Conservation at the Freer. I suppose I am lucky to live in the DC area, with so many resources here.
I am currently keep the screen in a room I have set aside for some of my early furniture as I have found the conditions in that room do not fluctuate as much of the house does.
Jeremy
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