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Topic starter 01/09/2020 2:11 pm  

I cannot seem to find this set anywhere to find out if it is fake.  I have attached pictures of the marks and the objects.  Any Help would be appreciated.  

 

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01/09/2020 2:25 pm  

Hi Yvonne,

Welcome to the site.

The decoration looks to be an interpretation of the popular willow pattern but my feeling is this isn't a Qianlong example.  I am afraid that your other pictures do not enlarge sufficiently to see the base or the mark, so I can't really say much more. 

Better photos would help if you have them.  

Best wishes,

Julia


   
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01/09/2020 2:46 pm  

The tree above the house and the roof have a regular, printed looking pattern. But as Julia said, it is almost impossible to see anything as the pictures are so small. 

Birgit


   
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01/09/2020 7:13 pm  

The shape of the jug , its handle , the blue tones, and the willow pattern decoration with the two large birds all look English rather than Chinese , although like others I can't see the marks. 

If it has a chinese mark , it could be a recent chinese mass-produced copy of willow pattern , which does appear sometimes in Chinese department stores and supermarkets as dining , tea sets.

Definitely not original qianlong export, imo

tam


   
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Topic starter 02/09/2020 9:36 am  

Thank you all for your comments.  I have attached Larger Pictures of the Marks.  They are the same on each piece.  I think you are all correct when you say they are modern pieces. 

 


   
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02/09/2020 1:12 pm  

Hi Yvonne, the marks are printed, as, I’m afraid to say, is the rest of the decoration. Tam‘s suggestion as a modern Chinese copy of an English pattern seems accurate. 

Birgit


   
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@yarrick

As Birgit pointed out, it's printed. You can tell because of the evenness of the script.

You may be aware of this already but hand painted decoration and marks usually have telltale details that reveal where the brush was lifted off the surface with little darker spots. You can see that in the mark below from a Kangxi example. If you tilt the piece to catch the glare of light you can sometimes see that the surface is ever so slightly raised where pools of glazed detail correspond to brush strokes. 

 


   
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