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First I need to apologise for the appalling photos! I photographed these on my phone, the light was poor and I only had a couple of seconds because it was very much an unofficial viewing!
But I was a bit excited because I saw these being submitted by the owner and immediately thought they could be genuine. As some of you know, my local auction hardly ever has good Chinese ceramics, mostly fakes, hence the excitement!
These have a few condition issues, but the lamp fitting was clearly authentic. Very rustic, not to everyone’s tase, but I quite like that ‘humble’ appearance.
This I thought was good, convincing surface wear and the glaze overspill on the base made me think it could be late 19th century?
I can upload more photos after the official auction viewing, but was wondering what you all thought in the meantime.
Regards
Nic
Hi Nic,
What is the £100 sticker on the red vase? It seems odd as if this were 19th c it would be worth a lot more, if it isn't it would be worth a lot less.
I can't tell anything from the photos, I am afraid, except to say that the green items might be tin/lead-glazed? What is the design, is it Chinese-style? They do have a look of Majolica like the vase posted the other day, it doesn't mean they are English but it is the only observation I can make.
Julia
Hi Julia, the £100 sticker was put on the vase during the valuation. I could hear the auctioneer telling the owner that’s what he thought it would make, but he didn’t give any information as regards date etc. Apparently they have an ‘expert’ come in once a week to look at Chinese items and give a proper valuation.
Yes, the green once are of that ‘feel’. I have seen these before, usually turquoise, but you’re right in that these may well not be Chinese. The decoration was a really basic floral motif. They don’t usually sell for much even if genuine? They were like these, but definitely green:
Yes, sorry about the photos, I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to photograph them because it wasn’t an official viewing day - I was there for an entirely different reason when these were put down on the table next door! I had 10 seconds to photograph!
Nic
I know that feeling, when you have to surreptitiously and quickly photograph without attracting attention. My results are always bad! 😀
If they are Chinese, maybe they are Shiwan?
Got to dash to work, will be interested to see other responses when I get back - have a nice Sunday!
Hi Nic,
that sounds exciting. From a collector‘s view I would try to get the red vase. It has a 19th century foot and looks cut off the surface after firing which is also a 19th century sign. I don’t know much about these kind of wares but to me the £100 seem a sensible price. Also as to a possible resale the red vase seems more saleable than the green vases. They have a 1900 historicism style but could be European or at least made to European orders.
Birgit
Thanks Birgit,
it was very stressful! I was expecting to hear someone shouting “excuse me!” at any minute!
I’m hoping the lamps will be cheap, in which case I may go for them. We’ll see.
The vase was convincing to me too, although I did wonder if the surface scratches were a bit OTT. These aren’t as apparent in the terrible photos as they were in person against the light.
Your advice is very much aporeciated.
Nic
Hi Nick -
I would concur with Julia and Birgit regarding the red vase which, from the finishing of the foot-edge and base seems to be 19th C, possibly of ‘water chestnut’ shape, but difficult to tell from the single image. From the images posted, certainly the one to go for ...
I will not comment on the green lamped vases ...
Best of luck in the sale if bidding ...
Stuart
Thanks Stuart. Very diplomatic response about the green vases, it made me chuckle 😂
All very helpful as ever, I very much appreciate it.
Nic
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