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Hi Guys:)
It is Teo again:)
There will be a local auction here, and I found a really interesting vase (to my eyes), It says it is Japanese and early 20th century,
the bid will start at $110, but I think this is the type of drawing Peter is always talking about, so that very fine, I have only 1 photo, but I have already asked for more, and I will upload them later, but what do you think?:) That's the truth I really like it:))
Thank you so much:)
That looks lovely, but I am looking forward to better photos. Is it really cloisonné? I can't believe it because the details are so fine. I looked for cloisonné decorated with figures, and there are not many, but none had the facial details like this vase.
Could it be a canton enamel? The decoration looks quite Chinese in style.
Or one of the modern vases that you find on ebay described as "old China....." some of those are called cloisonné but don't really look like it.
Thank you so much Julia:)
I was thinking about what you wrote, and I think it is Japanese enamel and in Chinese style, and I think the problem comes from our language,
we use the same word for the enamel and the cloisonne:) so when they wrote "zománc (cloisonne)" they didn't know, "zománc" has 2 different meanings in another language, but the photos will help,
Hi Guys:)
I have got some photos, not the best ones, but okay,
I also uploaded them here, I think it is better this way:
Thank you: Teo:)
Hi Teo,
It's a super cloisonne vase you have posted.
Personally with the presence of the ryri design I think it's Chinese rather than Japanese. These are normally seen only on Chinese.
The mark is interesting. I can't read or speak either Chinese or Japanese but it looks Japanese.
So it's confusing. Perhaps a Japanese artist working in China at the time.
Finally that glassy look is a more Japanese look.
Mark
Thank you Mark:)
I have the same feeling, and what do you think about the age? it says early 20th century, can it be that age? this Chinese pattern is quite confusing, I haven't seen Chinese patterns on Japanese enamels, that's why I have a modern feeling,
Nor sure Teo.
I am thinking early to mid 20th century.
The key to the age is a translation of the maker.
Mark
It is a very nice piece. I also think the decoration has a Chinese vibe - the top border makes me think of mid 20th c porcelain vases.
I don't know the mark. I wondered if it might be Robert Kuo (for the R or a K?) but I have never seen any of his cloisonné in this style besides, I think his work is second half of 20th c and this looks more like 1st.
Thank you Mark:)
I'm trying to figure out these marks at the qhanzi.com 😀
勹乇化, 勹乇儿, I don't know...:)
Thank you Julia:)
yes the border bothers me too, it has a late-20th-century feeling for me
I asked Peter, and he told me that it is a modern piece,1980+
and Japanese and the mark is a factory mark
ohh... and If I wait for 100 years, it will be good 😀
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