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 CentralPApottery
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Topic starter 10/10/2022 1:47 pm  

Hello again, this cloisonné snuff box seems to have taken a little extra work. One side shows a dragon catching a pearl with a pearl at the tail, as well. A blue color inside the box and lid. Would anyone have thoughts on age? Bought at the same time as some other late 20th century pieces.

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10/10/2022 2:22 pm  

To me it looks Japanese, late 19th/early 20th. How tall is it?


   
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Topic starter 10/10/2022 2:43 pm  

@johnshoe it is 5 1/2” tall. Also a closeup of the dragon and pearl and one of the eight decorations around the top. Little tiny dots outline the lid and top of the

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piece. I seem to remember reading that was a Japanese tendency.


   
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10/10/2022 4:05 pm  

@centralpapottery Also, could you show a picture of the inside of the lid and top with the top taken off? Thanks!


   
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Topic starter 10/10/2022 4:58 pm  

@johnshoe hopefully these will help. Wow, a lot of work in this… especially dragon and butterflies, but really everywhere.

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10/10/2022 5:04 pm  

@centralpapottery It's a nice little bottle. Thanks for sharing it with us.


   
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10/10/2022 5:21 pm  

@centralpapottery 

Hi - 

The design is not a dragon catching a pearl, but a Buddhist lion, or 'Shishi' in Japanese, playing with two brocade balls amounts flowers, possibly peonies ...

I know nothing about snuff bottles, so defer to @johnshoe regarding country of origin and dating attribution ...

Stuart 


   
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Topic starter 10/10/2022 6:37 pm  

@ming1449 interesting. I just saw on cam.ac.uk in “History of Cloisonné in Japan” a couple that look similar to this by Namikawa Yasuyuki about 1880-90 that are called lidded vases. Maybe this is not a snuff bottle but a lidded vase? The quality looks similar, but of course the ones on the Victoria and Albert Museum site are going to be of highest quality.


   
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10/10/2022 7:16 pm  

@centralpapottery you are correct it is not a snuff bottle, nor is yours on the level of a Yasuyuki, but it is a nice bottle, so enjoy it.


   
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Topic starter 10/10/2022 10:44 pm  

@johnshoe thank you


   
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Topic starter 13/01/2023 7:58 am  

@johnshoe not sure if you're a collector of cloisonne, but I decided to eBay it and let someone else enjoy a while. (Japanese Cloisonne Vase Meiji - item 266079187389) I started it at $99 and someone bid though. Just wanted to let you know in case you liked it and were interested.


   
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