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Topic starter 23/01/2021 6:36 am  

 

I didn’t buy this one (yet). They want $60 for it. Is this Republican or a later version? And is $60 a bargain? Sorry, the pics are a bit dodgy. 

Thanks, Todd

 

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23/01/2021 6:48 am  

Republic c. 1920/30s. These are usually offered for $150-300 so if undamaged $60 is a good price. It can be quite decorative if you clean it. 

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23/01/2021 7:11 am  

Hi Todd, 

I agree with Birgit. It's republican period and highly decoratively painted.

For $60 it's well worth it (I would buy it without a second thought). I would even go higher on value than Birgit as it's decorated more elaborately than normal with figures. These are sought after if without damage. Obviously the seller thought it's from a later period. But it's not!

On one side there appears to be calligraphy. Perhaps if you repost George aka gfhandle can decipher it for you. 

Nice vase. Great buy. 😊

Mark 

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Topic starter 23/01/2021 7:22 am  

Thanks so much Birgit and Mark! I should have bought it on the spot. I thought it was Republican, but doubts crept in. I will be waiting outside when the shop opens tomorrow morning. 😀 

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23/01/2021 7:54 am  

Hi Todd,

I do hope you can secure this vase. The mark on the base is actually the makers mark. It looks familiar to me but I can't recall at the moment. 

If you get it. Repost with pictures of the calligraphy. 

Mark 

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Topic starter 23/01/2021 7:58 am  

Will do, Mark. Thanks my friend!

Todd

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23/01/2021 12:50 pm  

Todd,

this is not a sleeve vase, it is a brush pot, painted in Qianjiang style.

It should be painted by a known artist, judging by the style, and most probably also dated.

Giovanni

 


   
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23/01/2021 5:15 pm  

@watership 

Hi Todd -

Really not my area but concur with others thoughts, this appears to be a nice, well painted example - although rather dirty and in need of a good clean ... 

I will defer to others regarding dating attribution but, as mentioned by Giovanni, the calligraphy may well contain a date ... 

As with with Mark, $60 seems an absolute bargain, I hope it’s still there and you are able to acquire ...

Stuart 

 


   
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Topic starter 23/01/2021 10:39 pm  

Hi Giovanni,

Ah yes, a brush pot. I feel like I’ve made that mistake before. The inscription is not very long. Eager to find out what it says 🙂 

Hi Stuart,

I’ve just got back home and gave it a once over. It was very dirty, for sure. 

 Hope these new pics help. I have to thank everyone again, I can’t explain how helpful you all are to me.

Todd

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24/01/2021 3:47 am  

So pleased you managed to get it! 🤗 


   
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24/01/2021 3:59 am  

Congratulations on getting it! How large is it? The standard size of these items is around 28cm/11“ so I wouldn’t call them brush pots. They developed from hat stands (with holes) and were made in large amounts for export in the 1920s. One typical feature is the faded gold rim. I don’t know the correct word for them, they are often sold as vases. 

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24/01/2021 4:23 am  

Dear Tod, it is dated wu zi, 1888.

If signed or not, I don't know.

Regards,

Giovanni

 


   
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24/01/2021 4:26 am  

When the artwork is that fine, just pay and never put it down Lol! (Glad it was still available!) I know people that would push a little old lady outa the way to get their hands on such a fine example for that price! And id leave my number with that seller if any more should happen to surface. 


   
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24/01/2021 5:04 am  

Hi Todd, 

So glad you were able to secure this item. 

I tried to find the mark on the base without success I might add. I know I have seen it before. It should be a known maker/artist judging by the quality of the work. Hopefully someone reading this thread could enlighten us all.

I know Giovanni states it's a brush pot and with all due respect to him I think it's too large to be one. Also not wide enough to be a scroll holder in my opinion which are larger than a brush pot. The gilt edge would be most unusual and more suited to a vase. But perhaps I am mistaken!

Well done on a fantastic buy!

Mark 

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Topic starter 24/01/2021 5:10 am  

Thank you Julia 😀 

Thanks so much Birgit! You have got it right, its exactly 11”.

Thanks Giovanni, that should be helpful.

Hi Kenny, Yes, I was kicking myself last night. I am really a novice in Chinese porcelain. My hands-on experience is limited. Fortunately, I saw the item late in the day and this shop is not a crowded one (its considered expensive, and for most things, I agree). So, I was relatively confident it would still be there. It was not prominently displayed. But I was relieved it was still there in the morning, regardless. 😋

Todd

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