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Topic starter 10/12/2021 7:27 pm  

Hi Everyone,

I just purchased this Chinese porcelain seal stamp just under 5" long; the price was right and I couldn't resist especially because of the landscape on one side. The seller said it dates from the early 20th century.

My question is: what is the script about? Also, can anyone read the seal? I know it's the reverse and not a good photo.

Warm regards,

Steve

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11/12/2021 2:30 am  

Could you do an impression with the seal?  It might help. No idea about the text, sorry.


   
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11/12/2021 4:09 pm  

A Song poem by YAN, Can  --- below translated by google.

Going to climb the previous month, I still think that the chrysanthemum is not yellow.
The autumn breeze is not negative, and the double ninth is specially

   
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Topic starter 11/12/2021 8:24 pm  

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Hi Julia,

I will when it arrives. It's shipping on Monday.

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Topic starter 11/12/2021 8:25 pm  

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Hi Yin Hall,

Thank you! I am thinking the poem is about entering old age. Appropriate for me. 

-Steve


   
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Topic starter 16/12/2021 8:09 pm  

 Update:

I recieved the item and it's heavy and more impressive in person than I thought it would be. Someone used the stamp with red ink. I don't have an ink pad yet but I'll look for one and update you when I'm able to make an impression. In the meantime here is a photo of the end if anyone can make heads or tails out of it as well as a couple more to show the flaws and details.

Regards,

Steve

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16/12/2021 10:02 pm  

@steve 

I reversed the image for you I don't know if that helps... If my brain is working right, I think that is what the stamp will look like.

Jeremy

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Topic starter 17/12/2021 12:20 pm  

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Thank you, Jeremy! I was thinking of doing that but wasn't sure which end was up.


   
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Topic starter 17/12/2021 12:20 pm  

Could this be called a "scholar's object"?


   
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17/12/2021 1:15 pm  

@steve yes I believe seals are considered scholars objects. This one doesn't look to me to be all that high quality or too old but I have limited experience with seals so others may know better. 


   
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17/12/2021 2:01 pm  

They sell these in tourist kits they come with ink paste box calligraphy brush and stamp. If it was a stamp for an individual it would be more refined.


   
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A tourist trinket! Well, that's interesting. Thank you.


   
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17/12/2021 9:10 pm  

A lot of early 20th century Chinese art was sold as tourist items. Probably most of the scholar objects we see. There are many Roadshow videos of Imperial wares and Ming items that were sold to the tourist I don’t think trinkets are what I’m referring to.


   
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Topic starter 20/12/2021 12:32 pm  

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That's interesting. Thank you for the explanation. 


   
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