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Hello, I am trying to determine the period and any other information of this small 6” plate. There is a sticker on the plate that reads “Made in the People’s Republic of China”. I believe this plate is older than the sticker. Thank you for any information and help!
Judging by the foot and the scribble mark, it looks very much Japanese.
Probable date around 1920+.
Can't see if the design is hand painted or a print.
The sticker suggests 1949 onwards. They as far as I know have not really changed said colour/design.
Of course, porcelain is not my area and I am probably making a jack ass out of my post with the above and will be corrected by more experienced members of the forum.
Mark
Thank you very much for the reply, I really appreciate it! That helps open my search into new direction!
The mark sure looks Chinese. Rare to see a Japanese dish with that type of mark. Probably not mark and period from the sloppiness of the mark. To be Japanese, it would have to be a straight-up attempt to make it look Chinese. Has some age I think. Just my amateur opinions. Todd
take it with a grain of salt
In my opinion a classic 19th century Kitchen Qing plate. The mark is a shop mark and makes no sense. These patterns were widespread in South East Asia but also in mainland China. Funny though that the sticker makes it younger than it actually is, kind of an inverted fake.
Birgit
I can see why Mark thinks it looks Japanese, the blue tone, back and foot rim made me think that, too - and the pattern on the rear does look like it might be printed, although, I can't be sure.
However, as Shinigami says, this is a typical 19th c Chinese shop mark. The front looks more chinese than Japanese and last time I thought the rear of a plate looked Japanese but the front Chinese, it turned out to be Chinese!
I thought the dark circle around the rim was distinctive so I did a bit of research and found this Chinese example:
The line isn't as heavy as on the example we are discussing but it does show a style and there is a more similar one on Gotheborg. I still think the other foot rim looks more Japanese and maybe (were these copied by the Japanese?), but on balance I think this is 19th c kitchen Qing.
Julia
The sticker on this plate is interesting, I guess in the People’s Republic of China period 20th century the Chinese didn’t care if what they were exporting was antique or modern. I have to assume that there could be a lot more antiques that were exported like this waiting to be found.
Thank you very much fir that helpful information!
IMO not Japanese. Above answers seem to point to that too. Date as above too. Foot 20th century and mid as per sticker I guess. Apart from anything it would seem odd to have a PRC sticker on an antique dish when its illegal to export antique porcelain from the mainland. This seems like "approved for export ware". Its just a thought.
Thanks for your reply, It does seem odd that this sticker would’ve on an antique piece
If this is late 19th century and kitchenware (which there is an abundance of), then it wasn't antique if the sticker was applied in the 1950s or 1960s.
Just my 5 cents.
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Very True!
Japanese and C20th, imo , from the footrim and the thick potting and the blue tone. The sticker is a red herring - i don't think you would stick something on the front like this.
tam
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