The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.
Basic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum: Talk about whatever you want. You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic. Maximum image file size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube, Vimeo etc.
NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button.
I bought this tureen today. Is this tureen from the first half of the 19th century? Could someone help to establish to value? I've been looking at past auctions ( christies, bonhams) and notice the value of these export pieces have increased a lot lately. Thank you
Yours is a slightly odd request - the value of the piece is surely what you just paid for it, no? Or maybe there is some reason why you think you paid less than market value ?
I would date this to late C18th , or early C19th.
tam
hi tam18, I bought it from a local antique store who didn't know much about it. Not even sure they knew if this was chinese or japanese. I was not very expensive, probably a fraction of what it would sell to a collector by a dealer or an auction house. I submitted it the sothebys this morning, I'm waiting for their answer. I was hoping someone who knows the market could tell me about the market value.
Hi judging buy your pics it is very difficult to date said item.
On the surface it would appear to be from the late 19th century.
I would be interested in what sotheby's reply is on said age etc.
Mark
yes , let us know the outcome with Sothebys.
My feeling is the shape and colour of the footrim makes it earlier.
There is some rubbing of the gilding, and the decoration is perhaps not top-draw; for example the birds and deer are not very artistically done. Still, if it's cheap it's definitely a good find. These tureens are not easily found nowadays, and do sometimes feature in high end export porcelain auctions.
tam
I'll keep you updated on sothebys reply. If they say they are not interested it means they believe it is worth less than 5000 usd. I'm thinking it might be worth more.... I've attached a photo of a tureen sold at christies 5 years ago. It sold for 5,250usd. In my opinion the piece I bought is more collectible, but the one sold at christies looks in better shape.
Here's one that sold at skinners in 2016, with some damage, for 450 dollars
tam
Maybe send pics to christie's/bonhams at the same time.
Sotheby's are very difficult to deal with at the best of times.
My opinion on age is only based on the limited pic's posted. So Tam may be correct and I stand corrected.
Mark
I know the name of the auction house can make a good difference on the price it sells for. Maybe the piece I bought isn't worth sothebys time. But the decoration on the tureen sold at skinners look like 20th century canton famille rose imitation in my opinion. I see vases with identical decorations all the time , the difference in colors makes easy to identify. Often having stamped qianlong mark on unglazed bottom. Probably post revolution or late republic
I think the buyer of the Christies tureen seriously overpaid, unless it was unusually large and imposing. Maybe you could do a search on ebay sold listings to find similar examples to yours.
tam
I think he overpaid too (even for $3000-3500 which is christies market evaluation), the tureen was 26cm wide, not imposing at all. Look at this one, 10 years ago these would be worth a few hundred dollars at best The value of export wares has increased lately. You'll never see such prices on ebay. Big auction houses is always a preferable option if you can.
Could you post a closeup picture of the people? They are a sometimes good clue to determine the age.
Birgit
Yeah that 2012 one is deceptive because you get 47 pieces for 20,000 dollars, not jut the three items in the photo!
Here's one from last year , many pieces for 4000 dollars, but frankly some are poor quality and all have slightly different decoration. Still not great value for money, even for 220 pieces!
tam
Hi,
A question, rather than a statement: doesn't the grit and this kind of foot rim suggest late 19th maybe even early 20th century? I also would like clearer pictures of the woman, all I can make out is that their hair is quite flat and unadorned. Which probably means something.
Best wishes,
Julia
Could be true about the kiln grit , but you can also see that on earlier export pieces , especially the bigger pieces, maybe (?)
The orange peel surface on the base may also indicate C19th or later, but the footrim seems very white to me and carefully cut and shaped, so more like what you would expect on an earlier piece.
tam
Latest Post: Help identifying this plate. Our newest member: Claude Bailey Recent Posts Unread Posts
Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"
If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.
Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.
Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects. As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.
Thank you,
Peter Combs
Topics and categories on The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes.
Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today
The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube. Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings.
The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.
The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...
Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.
China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.
Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...
Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.
The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.
Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.
With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries
Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.
Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.